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Cool breeze

Cool breeze Report 12 Aug 2005 14:08

How many in this day and age, will take a stranger in for the night and feed them, out of the goodness of the heart, and know that no property has gone. Ann, as for the gov't showing teeth, it is a shame that they are false teeth, no real bite.

connieonnie

connieonnie Report 12 Aug 2005 15:16

To Yvonne I have to agree with all you say , but isn't it a shame that England , once stood for freedom of speech , but the only ones who have been able to exersise that right are the the likes of Bakri. Yes we all have to be careful of what we say - but why should we ? Going slightly off the subject for a moment : Britain has a problem with the levels of crime in this country . for all the offenders who repeatedly add to the crime statistics , dont put them in prison to be let off for good behaviour in half the time. Put them in the army for two years national service and hopefully they will come out a MAN . Which brings me back to the subject of this link. If a person is to come into this country with absolutely nothing to offer , put them in the army too to fight for our queen and country . If they refuse , send them home.

BobClayton

BobClayton Report 12 Aug 2005 16:29

Connie I hope you are including women in your national service, there are plenty of female wrong uns about as well. Bob

Glenys the Menace!

Glenys the Menace! Report 12 Aug 2005 16:43

Looking at the title of the thread, Len, I've just had a thought - that this person is an insult to the many, many, decent men in this world. Getting me knickers in a twist thinking about the sheer audacity of this scum. Think I'd better skulk off now! lol. x

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 12 Aug 2005 18:13

Hi Connie Yes I agree with you. The only people who can have freedom of speach in England are people who shouldnt be here! I have thought about getting a little army up and parading round Finsbury Park with a big Cross or Crucifix, would I be able to preach my religion on the street? No It would be me that would be arrested. ME an Anglo- Saxon, with my own Coat of Arms a true British subject and loyal servant to the Queen of England! Why not give the money he was getting to British People who really need it. And while there out DEPORT MR BLAIR WITH THEM! Right Ive said enough, im going to have a heartache in a minute, blood pressure is zooming. oooohh Best wishes Yvonne

syljo

syljo Report 12 Aug 2005 18:49

Like other readers I agree that the wife and 7 children should join their father. After all Tony Blair advocates 'Happy Families' and that is being together. It is not only that sort of thing happening in England as it happens in the Netherlands too. We have asylum seekers who come because they are in danger, but seem not to be in danger after a year and return to their own country for a holiday. Why do I see this and not those who should? We certainly wouldn't be allowed to build churches in these moslim countries like they are building mosques everywhere. I've lost count of the number of mosques built here over the last years. Sylvia xxx

Phoenix

Phoenix Report 12 Aug 2005 18:55

I've just added up the figures that Len quoted - it comes to around £450 a week, but bear in mind he gets housing benefit, council tax benefit (don't think they have to pay any do they?), a new car and countless other benefits such as free NHS treatment! That £450 a week is more than my Husband earns working 55 hours a week and we don't get all the other help either - it's no wonder we struggle. I agree with others here - his Wife and Children should be shipped off to wherever he his/comes from too. Kaye x

Len of the Chilterns

Len of the Chilterns Report 12 Aug 2005 22:40

Do they have collections in mosques ? If so, does the preacher get a slice? I wonder what sort of income these clerics get from their own compatriots on top of benefits? Its a relief to hear on the news tonight that he's barred from coming back. Will he send for wife and seven kids - or have them send money to him as, presumably, her benefits will increase now. Len

Howie

Howie Report 12 Aug 2005 22:50

Len I wonder how many lawyer will take up his case against him not being allowed back into Britian and if legal aid will pay for it just a thought HOwardxx

Jan

Jan Report 12 Aug 2005 23:05

I was just wondering that too Howard. Even if he can't get at OUR legal aid because he's not allowed back into the UK I'm sure his Wife and family can shout loud enough about being hard done by and get his case funded that way. They should be sent with him too because they've known about his activities and shielded him, that's an offence isn't it. Jan x

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Aug 2005 12:35

I can't imagine anyone fighting for Omar Bakri Mahommed to be allowed back but you never know:) Hasn't he said he doesn't want to return? I don't know anything about his wife but I'm not sure I would agree that the kids should be deported because it doesn't seem fair that they should suffer for the sins of the father. And they are British after all. They might have a chance of a better life without him here.

connieonnie

connieonnie Report 14 Aug 2005 13:54

For David Owen, Sorry David , but can't agree with you on that one. 'The sins of the fathers'........ and all that. The children WILL have been brought up with his beliefs and will share his hatred for us 'White British'. Its already been prooved that most of the London bombers were born in Britain. An update on the situation regarding his wife - well she's considering buying the £200,000.00 property as it ' has a nice garden'. According to her , she can afford it, as well they can afford the £7500 for his heart operation. I have worked all my life - full time and can't afford a £200,000.00 home - how the hell can she when they have been claiming benefits for the past 20 years. Come on Mr Blair , kick all the Bakri's out. Makes you wonder how many others are abusing the system to the cost of all us tax payers. Finally had enough yet ? - i know i have !

Phoenix

Phoenix Report 14 Aug 2005 14:01

I am utterly Gob Smacked that someone on benefits can afford to buy a £200,000.00 house! It makes you wonder why we bother working doesn't it? Kaye x

Unknown

Unknown Report 14 Aug 2005 17:24

Connie I'm very wary of what the papers print about this sort of thing because the reports are very often based on 'a source' or 'a friend' but I disagree with what you say anyway. Just because children are brought up to hold certain views it doesn't mean they spend their lives believing them or acting on them and none of us have any knowledge of what the children do believe or what they will become. If us and our ancestors had all lived by the lights of our parents, we'd all be moreorless the same now wouldn't we?

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 14 Aug 2005 17:34

I shouldnt come on this thread cos its no good for my blood pressure LOL I agree with you Connie well said! So what type of money is this women picking up! so that means that all of you unemployed out there are living in a £200.000 house? well if she is then all of you are! No kick the kids out as well, oh there only kids thats what everyone says well the kids sympathy doesnt work on me, she wanted them well let her take them, born here or not, strip them all of the Citizenship after all trash breeds trash (and thats being polite) Sorry get them out! We will have the human rights on here next well let them do gooders keep them in money and house them in their homes. Right im going to pack my job in tomorrow, adopt a gang of kids and buy a £200.000 a house! Regards Yvonne

Hilary

Hilary Report 14 Aug 2005 17:43

I can't put it in words on here because they would throw me off. Fed up with people abusing the state benefits. I suppose now we will keep his family & pay for their holidays to visit him. DISGUSTED. HILARY.

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 14 Aug 2005 17:52

Hi Bendy Wendy You can come with me if you like! All of you that are working, give your notice in and come with me and get a £200.000 house off the Government. And if youve got kids, you will get extra money as well plus a four wheel drive car! Just the house will do me, oh and it must have a swimming pool! and a garage so I can preach the words of the Church of England to everyone. Regards Yvonne

Deb ( Steel City)

Deb ( Steel City) Report 14 Aug 2005 17:56

As for the housing, same thing here in Canada, I work for subsidized housing and the provincial government has now mandated us to offer subsidized housing to immigrants & new comers before those on the waiting list who have lived here for generations. Those who have lived here forever have to wait at least three to five years to be housed. In Toronto the waiting list is 10 to 12 years.

John

John Report 14 Aug 2005 18:05

Being a Canadian immigrant suddenly sounds appealing.

connieonnie

connieonnie Report 14 Aug 2005 21:21

David, Take your rose coloured spectacles off . The reason Bakri has stated he doesn't want to come back ,is because of the new terrorist laws. He's been milking our system for the past 20 years . Do you think its just a coincidence that he's decided he doesn't want to come back now ? And what sort of father leaves his family behind ? Do you think thats ok , that a man ups and leaves and expects us to carry on keeping his wife and kids. You say his children may have a better life without him, well his children are HIS responsibility NOT OURS ! Oh and another thing ..........has he returned his people carrier , after all , we have plenty of genuine cases who arn't as lucky as he is .........just read some of the threads on here. But you know what the main problem is in this country ? Its all the bloody do-gooders and human rights activists........