General Chat

That's alright, Connie. You are welcome, len

For Len of the Chilterns Len , im so sorry , it looks like ive really hijacked your board. This is one board i really did feel i needed to add to. Hope its ok with you. Regards Connie

Kaye we all need to carry on ranting, the trouble is, the REAL BRITISH people have kept their mouths shut for far too long . Its about time that the government listened . My husband has problems with his lungs and is unable to work. This was caused through his employment with a company who breached 23 health and safety requirements and after a four year battle , he was finally compensated with the company accepting full responsibility for the damage caused. BUT when he tried to get disability, the social security ' doctor ' said it was all caused through smoking . Lets all remember CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME

The benefits system in this country is completely back to front! My Husband had worked since before he left school and had never claimed a penny of benefits in his life, then he was made redundant and we had nothing - they refused to pay any housing benefit as we were 'over accomodated' (we had been renting a four bedroomed bungalow for a year without any help) but weren't about to offer us alternative accomodation, they also refused to pay any income support until they received a Redundancy Note and my Husbands wonderful employer refused to issue one for four weeks! We ended up down the social services practically begging for a bit of money - they gave us a 'loan' of £100 because I happened to have a catalogue debt! We ended up living seperately with different relatives for a year, because their was no help for people like us. Then there is my Brother - he had a Motor Bike accident over 20 years ago and had to have his left arm amputated, yet they will not pay him any Disability Allowance - his Wife gets a carers allowance which is pitiful - and they won't let him have a disabled sticker for his car, let alone give him a new one. So what the hell is disabled? We seem to mostly help those who fiddle the system and don't deserve any help it seems? Kaye x Sorry - got on a bit of rant there...lol

Chill out Connie - you'll do yourself an injury:) Not sure why you're addressing all this to me - I think Bakri should have left the country some time ago but as I've said his children are British citizens and as much are responsibility as any other and I don't think they should be punished for their father's crimes. I certainly wouldn't want to be held responsible for all of my relations misdoings.

David, Take your rose coloured spectacles off . The reason Bakri has stated he doesn't want to come back ,is because of the new terrorist laws. He's been milking our system for the past 20 years . Do you think its just a coincidence that he's decided he doesn't want to come back now ? And what sort of father leaves his family behind ? Do you think thats ok , that a man ups and leaves and expects us to carry on keeping his wife and kids. You say his children may have a better life without him, well his children are HIS responsibility NOT OURS ! Oh and another thing ..........has he returned his people carrier , after all , we have plenty of genuine cases who arn't as lucky as he is .........just read some of the threads on here. But you know what the main problem is in this country ? Its all the bloody do-gooders and human rights activists........

Being a Canadian immigrant suddenly sounds appealing.

As for the housing, same thing here in Canada, I work for subsidized housing and the provincial government has now mandated us to offer subsidized housing to immigrants & new comers before those on the waiting list who have lived here for generations. Those who have lived here forever have to wait at least three to five years to be housed. In Toronto the waiting list is 10 to 12 years.

Hi Bendy Wendy You can come with me if you like! All of you that are working, give your notice in and come with me and get a £200.000 house off the Government. And if youve got kids, you will get extra money as well plus a four wheel drive car! Just the house will do me, oh and it must have a swimming pool! and a garage so I can preach the words of the Church of England to everyone. Regards Yvonne

I can't put it in words on here because they would throw me off. Fed up with people abusing the state benefits. I suppose now we will keep his family & pay for their holidays to visit him. DISGUSTED. HILARY.

I shouldnt come on this thread cos its no good for my blood pressure LOL I agree with you Connie well said! So what type of money is this women picking up! so that means that all of you unemployed out there are living in a £200.000 house? well if she is then all of you are! No kick the kids out as well, oh there only kids thats what everyone says well the kids sympathy doesnt work on me, she wanted them well let her take them, born here or not, strip them all of the Citizenship after all trash breeds trash (and thats being polite) Sorry get them out! We will have the human rights on here next well let them do gooders keep them in money and house them in their homes. Right im going to pack my job in tomorrow, adopt a gang of kids and buy a £200.000 a house! Regards Yvonne

Connie I'm very wary of what the papers print about this sort of thing because the reports are very often based on 'a source' or 'a friend' but I disagree with what you say anyway. Just because children are brought up to hold certain views it doesn't mean they spend their lives believing them or acting on them and none of us have any knowledge of what the children do believe or what they will become. If us and our ancestors had all lived by the lights of our parents, we'd all be moreorless the same now wouldn't we?

I am utterly Gob Smacked that someone on benefits can afford to buy a £200,000.00 house! It makes you wonder why we bother working doesn't it? Kaye x

For David Owen, Sorry David , but can't agree with you on that one. 'The sins of the fathers'........ and all that. The children WILL have been brought up with his beliefs and will share his hatred for us 'White British'. Its already been prooved that most of the London bombers were born in Britain. An update on the situation regarding his wife - well she's considering buying the £200,000.00 property as it ' has a nice garden'. According to her , she can afford it, as well they can afford the £7500 for his heart operation. I have worked all my life - full time and can't afford a £200,000.00 home - how the hell can she when they have been claiming benefits for the past 20 years. Come on Mr Blair , kick all the Bakri's out. Makes you wonder how many others are abusing the system to the cost of all us tax payers. Finally had enough yet ? - i know i have !

I can't imagine anyone fighting for Omar Bakri Mahommed to be allowed back but you never know:) Hasn't he said he doesn't want to return? I don't know anything about his wife but I'm not sure I would agree that the kids should be deported because it doesn't seem fair that they should suffer for the sins of the father. And they are British after all. They might have a chance of a better life without him here.

I was just wondering that too Howard. Even if he can't get at OUR legal aid because he's not allowed back into the UK I'm sure his Wife and family can shout loud enough about being hard done by and get his case funded that way. They should be sent with him too because they've known about his activities and shielded him, that's an offence isn't it. Jan x

Len I wonder how many lawyer will take up his case against him not being allowed back into Britian and if legal aid will pay for it just a thought HOwardxx

Do they have collections in mosques ? If so, does the preacher get a slice? I wonder what sort of income these clerics get from their own compatriots on top of benefits? Its a relief to hear on the news tonight that he's barred from coming back. Will he send for wife and seven kids - or have them send money to him as, presumably, her benefits will increase now. Len

I've just added up the figures that Len quoted - it comes to around £450 a week, but bear in mind he gets housing benefit, council tax benefit (don't think they have to pay any do they?), a new car and countless other benefits such as free NHS treatment! That £450 a week is more than my Husband earns working 55 hours a week and we don't get all the other help either - it's no wonder we struggle. I agree with others here - his Wife and Children should be shipped off to wherever he his/comes from too. Kaye x

Like other readers I agree that the wife and 7 children should join their father. After all Tony Blair advocates 'Happy Families' and that is being together. It is not only that sort of thing happening in England as it happens in the Netherlands too. We have asylum seekers who come because they are in danger, but seem not to be in danger after a year and return to their own country for a holiday. Why do I see this and not those who should? We certainly wouldn't be allowed to build churches in these moslim countries like they are building mosques everywhere. I've lost count of the number of mosques built here over the last years. Sylvia xxx