General Chat

Child abuse has gone on for centuries,

I think it is the reporting of it that has changed, social attitudes to it, an acceptance that children deserve, have the rights to, a childhood.

The press will always focus on abuse by a priest, or teacher ..because it is supposed to be someone with whom a child is safe and because it is a 'shock' headline...

"An estimated 60% of perpetrators of sexual abuse are known to the child but are not family members, e.g., family friends, babysitters, childcare providers, neighbors.

About 30% of perpetrators are family members, e.g., fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins.

Just 10% of perpetrators are strangers to the child.

In most cases, the perpetrator is male regardless of whether the victim is a boy or girl. Heterosexual and gay men are equally likely to sexually abuse children.

A perception that most perpetrators are gay men is a myth and harmful stereotype.

Some perpetrators are female -- It is estimated that women are the abusers in about 14% of cases reported among boys and 6% of cases reported among girls.

Child pornographers and other abusers who are strangers may make contact with children via the Internet.

Not all perpetrators are adults - an estimated 23% of reported cases of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by individuals under the age of 18.
Other common characteristics of perpetrators include:

a.a history of abuse (either physical or sexual)
b.alcohol or drug abuse
c.little satisfaction with sexual relationships with adults
d.lack of control over their emotions
e.mental illness in some cases


So basically, the majority of child abuse is carried out by a person in a position of trust... their religion or lack of it is neither here nor there, in pure statistics perhaps?

debating with myself whether it is fairer to expect someone who follows a religion to behave better than an aetheist...or whether that implies one expects LESS of an aetheist ?

spot on Rose
The phrae "I am an atheist" is so often used as a get out clause

There are lots of adults out there doing WRONG and not being punished but to use the church as a cover is terrible and shows what slim these "humans "are!!!!

The words above do not show how nasty this situation is but I would be banned !!!

jeeeeeeeze take it easy Eldrick and errol...i've just made it plain that I'm glad i wasn't exposed to the CHURCH where this was exposed.After all this was the context of the thread was it not?

Blimey...I'm not 9 I'm well aware it happens outside of holy orders too lol.

sorry Muffy you are right it could happen anywhere - on a train, abroad, at home, on holiday - the point was that it happens

That is the point Errol - the fact that it happens. It is dreadful to think that many paedophiles get into positions where they have constant access to children - and often children whose parents are either very trusting or in some cases negligent. These people are predators and often very good at covering up their detestable crimes.

absolutely Sue could not agree more

Maybe if you didn't want to bring religion into it you could've found 150 other examples.

scuse me for reading it as it was presented :-S

Anyhow that's my lot for tonight...early start tomorrow.....but seeing the way my on topic comments were jumped on makes me understand why folk are reluctant to post these days.

Not me. I'll be back..in the words of Arnie lolololol

nite all x

I don't think they were jumped on - just intelligent dfiscourse and discussion - the point if you missed it was a priest in France - that was the point of the thread - so surely I was not bringing religion in, I was commenting on fact.
But truly sorry if you took it the wrong way and misunderstood.
Read the original point!

A PRIEST yes...not a teacher or social worker or dustman.

Anyhow......I know what I meant...apologies if i didn't make it clear that priests aren't the only child abusers........i took it as gospel that folk did know.......more fool me. Maybe I should start to treat folk on here like idiots to cover my backside.

nite x

"Maybe if you didn't want to bring religion into it you could've found 150 other examples."
Keep with the topic lmao
night night (with a g) x

hmmmmmmm picking folk up on their grammar.........the grave yard of debate.

GOOD NIGHT errol lol x

How on earth did I pick you up on your grammar then?
Take care muffy x

quote.........night night (with a g) x

not the nite that i put?:

ppfffft.

Hey whatever makes you feel good about yourself is fine by me lol.

that's LAUGH OUT LOUD in case you're feeling pedantic about that too lol x

I am not sure why you are being antagonistic but the g was supposed to be an icon with a kiss

This is why people hardly post or add to the debates or to any threads on here now adays, for fear of been picked up or mocked for their grammar, one of the reasons I hardly post as the same thing happened me just the other week, its very hurtful you know....and on that note I am off to bed to read my picture book.

I would love to know how I picked on and made mockery of grammar!

...makes you wonder why there are so many social inadequates, and what makes them so....


edit: The reason I think this is, we al know that, when in prison, with 'hardened' criminals - ie gun toting bank robbers etc, the paedo has a rough time. Even amongst those who are considered our 'worst' - abusing children isn't accepted.

As some one once said on the tele recently it is as it ever was and probably always will be. Only good thing now we have parents, who when it comes to their children being abused by clerics, are now no longer afeared of reporting them.

There are some very dangerous people out there who will find ways of abusing children and parents and the public in general have to be aware of the signs which I think a lot of people now are.

I haven't read the thread because the pattern is always the same. Put him/her in prison but I would drawer the line at handing them to the dogs inside. To think you're superior because you have raped or murdered someone is a bit skewed in my opinion.

Vera

That's why I referred to them a social inadequates.

A rapist or murderer is in no way 'superior' - but hurting children seems to be a 'no-no', in prison, even amongst these people.