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Ah well .... time for me to go......... the truly 'PC' types were obviously in hiding for this one !! God bless any and all service families on this site. Mike

Hi Mike I heard such comments last sunday..... Just whatch sunday morning football matches. running for cover from footie fans,,,,,,,,,.

I have been a serviceman. Anybody who thinks he or she can sign up for the Queens shilling and not be treated badly is a fool. You get sworn at, called all the scum under the sun (and treated like it too.) But you know what? If you take it and learn from it you come out the other side a far better person. You realise that you are all in the same boat, be you black green yellow or heliotrope, scots, english, welsh or any combination. You know your mates, you look out for one and other. And something else too. You actually get to love that miserable sod who gave you such a hard time and you can remember him like a Dad.Because he was always there to fight your corner PROVIDED that you gave of your best. I say leave the services alone. Political interference will result in a melted down namby pamby bunch of no hopers.

Oops, sorry, thought you were addressing me further back ... :-) Would have been odd if he had objected! PS Name change coming up soon.

The problem is the country is becoming too PC, but he is only speaking the truth and the thing is the people who these comments are/were aimed at have no problem with it so why should Cameron? Because he thinks he will lose votes - He has now, all you have to do is read what has been written on the BBC website. I had no problem being teased and such when I was in the military and my husband will tell you he had no complaints from his lads either! (He is still serving) Debs x

my dad had the uttermost respect for the ghurkas,and when he was in india,he learnt [i think ]punjabi fluently,and another language[not sure which] he used to talk to my indian neighbours in there language[showing off].they called him dad,lol.so my point is the army never made him racist ,in fact he was the reverse.wos so proud of my dad.he was a hero.as all are boys are.xxxxxxxxxxxx

William, how good to see someone who understands the way the military works, Ann and debs, you too, caz xxx

William what you say is so right - If we allow the new recruits to be treated with kid gloves and wrap them up in cotton wool then what will happen when they are sent to war? Breaking them (you know what I mean) is a way of weeding out the boys from the men, and of course the girls too.. Debs x

William ........ I was just leaving but caught your reply ....Hallelujah brother is all I can say !!!!!!!!!! Mike

david, You and me agree on this, my OH can take it, I couldnt, not my personality, Caz x

Perhaps Mike you will re-read my post,,,,Cameron is taking this stance because he knows it is true even in todays *forces* but he has made a political stand. ----of course it goes hand in hand with training as we all know,, it only comes abusive when anyone is singled out,,and if someone is going to stand there and bawl their eyes out at the slightest roasting then these are toughend up,,,,,,,,,, I also have *forces*persons in the family serving now in Bassra dad was a forces person --of course its accepted by many,

sounds like a normal day where i live

Just popped back in to see how things were going! Now I really have to get back to writing my book ( Pretentious eh !!!!! ) Thanks to all who have contributed their thoughts. Take care all ......... catch you later Mike

yes blue ........get back to that book..........can wait.xx

I am a in the TA and have only come back from Iraq In December ... In the Army you worry when people aren't calling you names or Nick names... if they are taking the Pi*s out of you its because you are part of the team.. if you have ginger hair you get called genge if you have big ears you get called wing nut!!! it a handle thats all ! Because I was a techie I got call Sgt Conehead and it was started by the CSM.... and I was proud of that nickname! There is no place for raceism in the army or any type of ism!! but Nick names are a form of camardeare and some people are proud of there Nick names because it stands them out as an individual not a grey man... somebody who just blends into the background... if you are Scotish and proud of it surely in a group of English men to be called Jock is something to be proud of because you have got that name coz you are what you are and its good your mates think of you as that not just another invisible person...... any is'm is wrong!! to be proud of what you are and be nick named because of it isn't its a badge of honor not an insult. A very clear Army Officer once said ' I may not belive what you belive but I will fight to the death for your right to belive it!' The Army I am in still belive that and so do I! we all bled red whatever the colour of our skin... and every skin colour I know has shed their blood in the fight for peace as part of a team black, white, man or woman each one a important cog in the big machine Graeme not Caz

hi hun................what a guy................xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

My hubby is ex army. I recall him telling me about a particularly offensive sergeant who kept calling everyone b*****. My hubby eventually took exception, and responded with his fists. When summonsed to CO, he explained that he was , in fact a b*****, as he was illegitimate. CO basically said bad luck, son, it is part of army speak! So why now is this officer being punished. As my late father , also ex military, used to say,'When in Rome, do as the Romans Do' . I assume that this is not politically correct either now. Am I still proud to be British......? Gail

Thanks, Graeme. Just sometimes I feel that we are the second class citizens.(Thankyou Government!) This is probably the cause of people being uneasy about the political climate, not the people themselves. Gail

Gail ALWAYS be proud of you and what you are what EVER that is !!! Graeme

Hi Joyous Joy, just being nosey but who did your dad serve with? Mine too was in Dunkirk & Burma (Black Watch). Lorraine Sorry Mike for not really adding to your discussion.