General Chat

LOL Hayley, for a lot of things I am left handed, it's a wonder my son picked it up so quick, his name starts with a K not C just to make things more difficult for him, AND he is still sane :-D

Reading about tying shoelaces - teaching my son had me beat - I tried putting a lace through cardboard and having him stand opposite me. Nope. However help was at hand, teacher understood and about 6 months after he began school went on holiday to parents and first thing I said to my brother was 'teach your nephew to tie his laces' - job done - brother was left handed also.

reading that article today I was horrified at reaction the teacher got upon asking a mother to back her up in telling her son he must not spit at other pupils. Mother erupted and made formal complaint to headmaster who in turn, told teacher to apologise.

What chance have these kids of growing into good citizens?

ive seen this problem first hand,and to say i was shocked is an understatement.....A few yrs ago i did some work in a barnardo"s creche.
children were between 3 and 4yrs old,and the reason these children were at the creche was because the parents were next door taking parenting classes,you may think that im talking about teenage parents?but no,most of these parents were in their middle to late 20s, with a few teenagers mixed in.several children were still in nappies,some drank from bottles,not one of them could string a sentence together,and some had no language at all.during snack time,some would eat fruit ,but most of them would not touch it,and only a few could name one or two fruits,one little boy came to school one day with coffee in his bottle and one came to us carrying a bottle of coke.

the only reason these children are behind is because the parents cant be bothered to teach them and would rather let someone else do the job.
i have a 2yr old grandson,who can count to 50,knows most of his colours,can sing songs,is toilet trained,has lovely manners,knows the names of every part of his body and loves books,thats because his parents took the time to teach him(and they both work)...... :-)

I dont think it is always parents not being bothered. I think sometimes parents do not have the skill themslves or the interlect to share what they do know appropraitely,

On the original topic - nappies.
My neph was clean & dry quite late - he really didnt grasp the idea and he was getting on for 4 by the time he was relyable and happy to use the toilet. He refused to give up trainer pants though. He did start school in them - just for the one day when he realised everyone else wore pants.He never wet the trainer pants, just seemed to need the security of wearing them. Even when he was a bit older, he couldnt explain why he'd wanted them

Since yesterday, I do recall being told about a 6 year old still being in nappies. In all fairness he was SN, but his father couldn’t accept the fact. His mother’s English wasn’t as good as her husbands, but all the same was embarrassed about it, and recognised that ‘something wasn’t right’.

Because of the lack of co-operation from the authoritarian Father, the ‘Statement’ process was taking long than it should, hence lack of funds to employee a SNTA. In the meantime, the school was phoning the mother to come and clean up her son when he needed changing.

Unfortunately our step grandson still wears pull up nappy pants and he is 12 in June.

He has special needs and goes to a school for children with problems, he has a chromosome abnormality.

He has been under a paediatrician since a baby and wasn't doing well. living with his mum.When our daughter married his father they eventually, with the blessing of social services, went to court some 7 years ago and got custody of him with his mother having weekend and holiday access.

he has come on in leaps and bounds and will go for a pee by himself and in the last year has got dry at night BUT he seems to have a mental block about sitting on the loo to poo. He doesn't seem to mind . no matter what is said to him , having a dirty bum.

He feeds himself and uses a knife and fork but they still have to have a plastic place mat on the table and a plastic sheet under his chair because he is messy.

He is encouraged every day to do things for himself , he is now reading but cant write or control a pencil to do so. He is a whiz though on the PC !!

Unfortunately his mum doesn't encourage him at all lets him do as he likes and has no disciplinary boundaries set for him and then complains because he has been a complete pain all weekend .

The problem is it takes him a couple of days to settle down again after each contact visit with his mum and both the School and our daughter get the brunt of his behaviour till he slips in again to his routine,

He does have autistic tendencies so a routine is essential but He doesn't want to get a routine going with his toileting.


i realise his problems aren't what the article was about though, but was lazy parenting by some with "normal" children

yes shirley this thread is not about SN children,no one would comment on a SN child being in nappies at 4yrs old,these children have enough to cope with,and toilet training is the last thing on their parents minds when trying to cope with anything else. these children are healthy children without healthcare issues who"s parents cant or dont teach them normal social skills.x