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My daughter was in the pub last night, with 2 friends. They were having a civilsed conversation, saying how proud they were to be English. They then got on to politics and were discussing how unfair it was that Scottish MP's could vote on English matters, but English MP's couldn't vote on Scottish matters, when they were verbally abused and threatened by a Scottish bloke from 2 tables away
They weren't talking to him, but he kept shouting that they were slagging off the Scots. Daughter and company said they weren't, it was the political situation etc, but he ignored tham and was extremelly aggresive, particualrly to the one male amongst them!!

He managed to upset my daughter, ruined a good evening and didn't do too much for Scottish/English relationships!!
Shame when you can't have a quiet discussion, isn't it?

maggie

Very rude to eavesdrop on another conversation. Obviously listened but didn't hear.
S

Oh dear lol

Well Maggie you do not surprise me.
The Scots can be quite aggressive.... not to say 'frightening'.

Your daughter and her mates are quite right.
What gets me is the fact that they have things which we don't have, like free university (which they should have) and extras such as Prescriptions which I believe are free, as they are in Wales.
BUT ..... the money has to be coming from Parliament IN ENGLAND.

And before anyone starts on me, My dad was Scots and my whole paternal family.
But in my opinion, if you want your own parliament... look after your own people.

AND your daughter should have been able to discuss anything without interference from anyone in the room.

Deanna X

When did stating the truth become slagging anyone off! Touchy people !!

prescriptions are not free, not yet anyway, and I'm sure people still pay for their university courses, not trying to cause trouble just stating facts.

Deanna you can't get free prescriptions in Scotland but I think they are cheaper then they are here.

However, I do agree that the man was out of order.

People who eavesdrop, never hear good of themselves. Obviously they were not having an interesting conversation or they would not have butted into your daughters. Thought we had freedom of speech in this country. By the way im half scot.

His English girlfriend joined in the aggression as well - told them to 'Leave him alone' - like my daughter and co had started it!!

I hope they had the mother of all hangovers, and if I knew who they were - well!!!

maggie

A good landlord should have spotted that and advised them to cool down. for a start your daughter and friends may take their custom elsewhere in future.

Ann
Glos

We dont get free presciptions, I think it's about £6/7.
We get free dental checks and eye sight I think too.

Deanna, not only Scots can be aggressive that's not fair :(( Engish can be too.

Marion

I'm English and extremely proud of it - but understand that the Scots are also proud of their nationality, if they would only take those Scot born bufoons Blair and Brown back I would be in debt to them forever...and yes all nationalities are capable of aggression

Maggie

Its a shame when adults cant have a debate without someone butting in and getting shirty.

Deanna yes the Welsh do have their own parliment and to certain extent are able to make changes such as free prescriptions, you are also right that the money is given to the Welsh assembly from the English parliment but all the Welsh revenue goes into the same pot so although it seems like we are recieving money from the English government we are just getting a share of what we put into the coutry as a whole.

I can understand people living in England being annoyed about those in Scotland and Wales getting more benefits but surely the blame cannot be pointed at the Welsh and Scottish governments but the those in Westminster who are not doing the same for England.

Jax xx

Obviously they did not have anything interesting to talk about, if they were busy listening in on other folks chatter......some people just spoil for arguements.....

Isn't the point that the Scottish and the Welsh have both opted out to whatever level of the British government and the English haven't? We can hardly moan cos the Scottish and Welsh have more oomph than we have!

Deanna, that's a bit unfair on the Scottish:)

Marion I did not mean to upset the Scots people.

And I understood that university education is free.
It has been spoken about on TV.
Sorry if I have upset anyone, I am not aggressive and did not mean to.

Plus, too early in the day for me to argue with anyone.... ;-0)

Deanna X

Deanna X

I just wonder how he managed to hear them when he was two tables away in a busy noisy pub?

Ears on elastic....... ;-0)

My husband has a hearing problem , but never if I'm saying something about HIM!

Deanna X

My in-laws live in Scotland.....my SIL is scottish but my OH family are English ....born and bred...My sil 2 grown up children also english born and move back when they were about 6 and 8 yrs they lie they were born in scotland and don't dare refer to them as english.....I find that the scotish people are at times the most racist people I have ever heard towards the english......it can be upsetting having to justify my nationality..

That's ok Deanna, I won't....'smash yer heed in' over it pmsl
I dont know enough about it argue.

Marion