General Chat

Further news states that Social services in the UK are probing Madeleine McCann's family amid fears that parents Kate and Gerry will be charged with killing their daughter, it emerged today.

Police and social services chiefs were today meeting to discuss the future of the family now that they have returned to their home in Rothley, Leicestershire.

The talks will focus on the care of Gerry and Kate McCanns' two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, in the light of the allegations made against the couple in recent days.

i dont know if anyone else is feeling this,but as bad as it all looks,as a mum and nan i dont want to think that either parentscould be guilty of concealing maddies body.
i dont want to think that they then set up a fund and conned the world.
if maddie died by accident surely to god they would have just said .............this is what happened.
and hold there hands up to neglect.
am i being soft.........are people [if guilty ]capable of doing things like this.
and also i think one of the problems started for me when they poo pooed the neglect issue.
instead of saying we made a terrible mistake.
im still asking friends family work mates what they think and no-one is sympathetic to the parents.not one.xxx

A police file of evidence which allegedly proves that Kate McCann killed her daughter is expected to be handed to a public prosecutor in Portugal today.

Detectives believe they have now collected enough evidence for Mrs McCann to be charged with the homicide of Madeleine by failing to prevent her death. The charge is equivalent to manslaughter in British law. She would also face a charge of concealing a Madeleine’s body.

The McCann’s had previously insisted they would return to Portugal if requested by police but their decision to consult a British expert in extradition law has led to speculation that they may fight an extradition order.

According to the Times Online the Portuguese Police have enough evidence to charge Kate McCann with Homicide.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2423304.ece

The first rule to remember is.....Read an account in the news papers/TV/radio...add a large/medium/small according to publication, of salt and there is a grain of truth there.

We must remember that as far as news papers are concerned they want banner headlines, they are what sells newspapers.

Until were hear from "the horses mouth" remember to take a pinch of salt.

Having said that.....we have all said at some time in our lives..."If only"...hindsight is a perfect science !!!!! Whatever the outcome of this sad happening, the mcCann`s will have to live with it for the rest of their lives.


If they "did away" with Madeline, where did they hide the body????? As visitors to Portugal I would think they did not know the area, so how come they have hidden her so well ?????

Whatever has happened to that little girl I hope she was not frightened or in pain.

Kathlyn

i think they have gone home knowing they will be called back to portugal so they can leave the twins with family.......
jet

As they haven't actually been charged, there is nothing tangible for them to cry "not guilty" about. Nor to clear their names from.
Only bad public opinion on some issues, and that is harder to change, I would have thought.

Jay

did you here her on the cadaver dog, making a mockery of it!!! even though they are right 99% of the time....

the whole

" whats kate going to do, shes not lassie" that sort of stuff is not helpful...

Ok tell me this why is that Philomena McCann on every TV show at present saying they are not guity.

Was she there?

Also why is she feeding the public information about what was said in the interviews - when they are not supposed to say?

But nothing is being done to these people who went to a quiz night and left their children.
There was baby sitting services available (at a price which I am sure they could afford) why didn;t they use them?
Too many thing do not add up - again i say from the start i thought it was not right but could not say anything because i would be hung drawn and quartered!

I find it odd that there are so many different versions of what led to the outcome of Madeleine's disappearance. None of the versions seem in agreement with each other. There is no excuse for leaving children unattended,eight children in all, makes my heart weep what could have happened to them. If they did check on them every 30 minutes anything could happened during that time.
As professional people their common sense has a lot to be questioned.
Sheila

Ben Needham was a totally difference set of cicumstances.

i am so sorry to say but from the start of all this

(1) I would not leave my children unattended (even if they were a min away)
(2) Why did the twins not wake up?
(3) Why didn;t she wake up a make and scream
(4) too smug by half - i would be weeping and a wailing not want to be in front of press.
(5) I would want my own mum - come home asap
(6) I would close the curtains in the front of my house (when I got home) to make sure the press could not see me.

Just a thought!

All there is at the moment is a little girl has gone,whether abducted or murdered at this moment no one knows. All the rest regarding the Parents is what the Press/TV. etc.send out, nothing has been proved Yet, Untill then the only charge that can be bought against her Parents is "Neglect" Lets hope that she may be found and let all the Inuendo and Suposition remain just that."Inocent Untill Proved Guilty should be the norm. .M.

'IF' she was snatched, somebody must have been watching their moves.
Dr's should have had more sense and known that is the way these people work.


That is if she was snatched.

Marion

Ben Needham wasnt on a beach. The farmhouse was very remote, and he was playing outside on the front. He was only left alone for a few minutes, and police are certain someone was watching them, it was planned. The grandfather blamed himself and his marriage split up. I do feel so sorry for that family.

James,
Just to clarrify,

Little Ben Needham was in the care of his Grandparents at the time of his going missing,,,,the grandfather left him for minuites in the garden and he dissapeared,

I just dont think the P/P want to look nearer to home..

At this late date unless with a miracle that little girl will be seen again ,alive or otherwise,& she is not the first child to go long term missing from Portagual.

Janet, just to add, there would be no "why" or "how", if those parents had looked after their children.

I just hope Maddie is found, preferably alive, but I doubt that now, sadly:(

That is one of the great causes of concern for me.
8 children under the age of 4yrs left unattended - one set of parents (both doctors) had a baby monitor. Of the other 6 parents, 4 were doctors.

Doctors are often called to give opinions in cases of child abuse and to advise parents on childcare, good parenting skills.

I find this most alarming. I have no children and have never criticised any of the parents as PARENTS for leaving their children - I do worry about the professional aspect of the 4 who were doctors though.

Jay

I have tried to keep my opinion on this one stum, but what does me, look at Ben Needham in the early 90's who went missing off a beach in Greece, did his parents get the publicity that this has got, they were there supervising him, I can see how that can happen on a beach, we went to the coast during the holidays, I have 2 children one of us was seeing to the other child and getting the picnic out, looked up and the eldest who is 5 we couldn't see, she just wandered off, not said a word, didn't hear her. It wasn't busy, and she was sat on some steps 8 ft in front of us, would that be classed as neglect?? I feel for Maddie, like you say she deserves to be protected by her parents, but alot of people where I live have said, that yes they did neglect their children by leaving them unattended, but if, just saying if it was a family that were not as intelligent as the McCanns, say another family, they weren't doctors, they weren't as affluent as the McCanns, the SS be up in arms and rearing to go and take the other children into care, if you follow my drift.

Sorry don't want to cause offence, and if they are innocent, they will live with the guilt of leaving the children, but we all have the most horrendous days with kids, and nights and by gum I know, but they only time I have walked away when I have had enough of the crying the lack of sleep is when daddy is there to take pressure off. But if they are guilty and it may well have been an accident by hiding this, they have made the whole situation worse, it will all come out eventually. But if they are guilty they have made alot of people look very silly pleading for help.

If Kate goes back to her GP job, I hope she wont be called in to child case conferences where children on the At Risk register are being discussed with views to whether they should stay on the register/be taken into care etc. Because the child's GP is often are invited to these conferences, and that would be an insult to the mother to have her there offering advice, considering. And Im not saying Kate is guilty, my own feeling is that whether she is guilty OR NOT, she shouldn't be giving advice (and criticism) over the way other people care for their kids.