General Chat

Hiya Baz, Just saw your thread. Make that a big AYE from me. Loved those 4 fab boys. Incidently. Could this be the same Eddie Pritchard who 2 or so years ago sent me a load of mis-information on my scouse rellies?

Lynda Ferratt, what better songs ? nothing appeals to me ! for a start they couldn't sing, they only knew a couple of cords, also not many people know that they had ghost writers writing their stuff ! also George Martin made them sound better than they were ! as he did with Cilla Black.

Gray Ward, you have got me worried, are you a bloke or a woman ? and as regards losing your shoes at the Town Hall, when was this ? But as you say seriously, where and when was your Daniel born ? If I can help you I will.

Joy Kentish Maid, 'No ! I am not a bit interested, and you won't change my opinion of those talentless idiots the so called 'Beatles '

Eddie - Its a great shame that you have not bothered to really listen to some of the 'better' songs produced. I would be the first to agree that some of the more commercial and 'fun' songs were perhaps not as good musically as they should have been - but there was so much wounderful music produced that surely there must be something that appeals to you...

Eddie, if you can't answer polite questions I'll put you on my list of people to be ignored! :-) Joy

Lynda Ferratt, I don't doubt your daughter is a talented pianist, and I wish her well ! but she could have picked a better song than 'Imagine ' makes one want to cut their throat !

Yes, I noticed that. Maybe he is a windup after all?! :-) Joy

Sheila in Wiltshire, I am glad someone else agrees with me ! 'Thanks for That ' Sheila !

Joy, I aked Eddie a very civil question on his thread, regarding his opinions... but still waiting for an answer.... ?

I really thought you were joking, Eddie, but am now wondering? Are you really not interested in what I quoted written by the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack ? Joy

Roxanne, I would strangle both of them ! and Ringo a drummer ? you have to be joking !

I find this interesting, from the net: http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME01/A_Beatles_Odyssey.html Alan W. Pollack's musicological journey through the Beatles' songs by Ger Tillekens ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In many ways the songs of the Beatles are exemplary for the musical innovations the British beat explosion wrought onto the domain of popular music in the sixties. With their music the British groups forged a highly original combination out of the erstwhile separate elements of other musical styles, which quickly evolved to become a full-blown style of its own: the music we nowadays know as pop or rock music. The Beatles stood at the front-lines of this artistic movement and their songs offer worthwhile material for those who want to know more about the musical characteristics of rock music. And, there's help for those who want to study these songs. Since 1989 everyone can look for assistance on the internet in the Notes on ... Series, written by the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack on each and every Beatles' song. 1 Chains of pan-diatonic clusters. Think yourself back to the city of London at the end of the year 1963 and meanwhile keep in mind that the virus of Beatlemania at that moment still was restricted to the British Isles and beat music was seen as music for adolescent boys and girls. Then and there only a few adults took the sound of the four Beatles seriously. Yet there were some who did and among them there was at least one real musicologist. If you had been there on the right day and you had bought the distinguished British paper The Times, out of the first hand you could have read an extensive musicological article devoted to the Beatles. This early assessment was full of praise for their musical accomplishments, but also phrased in a kind of learned musicological language that contrasted sharply with the self-concept of the rising youth culture. Read the next quote to know what the author heard in songs, most young people in those days just danced or sat down to listen to. ''Their noisy items are the ones that arouse teenagers' excitement. Glutinous crooning is generally out of fashion these days, and even a song about 'Misery' sounds fundamentally quite cheerful; the slow, sad song about 'That Boy', which figures prominently in Beatle programmes, is expressively unusual for its lugubrious music, but harmonically it is one of their most intriguing, with its chains of pan-diatonic clusters, and the sentiment is acceptable because voiced cleanly and crisply. But harmonic interest is typical of their quicker songs too, and one gets the impression that they think simultaneously of harmony and melody, so firmly are the major tonic sevenths and ninths built into their tunes, and the flat submediant key switches, so natural is the Aeolian cadence at the end of 'Not a Second Time'' (the chord progression which ends Mahler's 'Song of the Earth').''

Sorry, they don't do it for me!

OK so the Beatles may not have been perfect....they may have had help, George Martin et al...but they changed the face of British music....before them we copied the USA....British artists released copies of US hits and had song writers...the Beatles produced their own, wrote their own....some good, some bad, but it started a trend...a good trend and enabled British groups to emerge with an identity of their own..........sadly this seems to have come to a halt...but with luck another group like them may come along again...new music not Rap...original music not re-releases .....

Baz, look what you've done now ... am off again! :-) .... Joy ............................................................. When I find myself in times of trouble Mother Mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom, let it be. And in my hour of darkness She is standing right in front of me Speaking words of wisdom, let it be. Let it be, let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be. And when the broken hearted people Living in the world agree, There will be an answer, let it be. For though they may be parted there is Still a chance that they will see There will be an answer, let it be. Let it be, let it be. yeah There will be an answer, let it be. And when the night is cloudy, There is still a light that shines on me, Shine on until tomorrow, let it be. I wake up to the sound of music Mother mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom, let it be. Let it be, let it be. There will be an answer, let it be. Let it be, let it be, Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

Eddie - It couldn't have been that bad because my eldest in a pretty good musician and has a love of all music from modern to classical. She played Imagine on a piano in Harrods once when she was about 9.....

sorry, I forgot to say aye :-) Joy

Edie would like these lyrics. He's winding us up really! :-) Joy ................................................. Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller He got hair down to his knee Got to be a joker he just do what he please He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola He say I know you, you know me One thing I can tell you is you got to be free Come together right now over me He bag production he got walrus gumboot He got ono sideboard he one spinal cracker He got feet down below his knee Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease Come together right now over me He roller-coaster he got early warning He got muddy water he one mojo filter He say one and one and one is three Got to be good-looking ’cause he’s so hard to see Come together right now over me

eddie dont be cheeky. we and bryan are all entitled to our oppinions its a free county