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I am rather disgusted....a good debate!! thanks

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Pat

Pat Report 16 Feb 2006 16:22

Hi again Helen :-) Thanks for your reply already!!! I totally agree with it I have seen all that on here and also known people leave over it, such a great shame people feel so intimidated by others. Janet you are right we do all have that right some people on General seem to forget that at times :-( I love reading other peoples views whether I agree with them or not I find it fascinating sometimes, it all makes for variety which is supposed to be the spice of life. I actually wish there were more debates & discussions as there used to be on here, but unless some of the original members or some more new members join in I doubt it will happen as so many seem to not want to partake in such things on here anymore, although after saying that I notice there has been a couple in the past day or so that I am just cathing up on. :-))) Good to see you Helen & thanks again. Pat x

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 16 Feb 2006 14:55

All of us have a right to express an opinion, but NOT the right to unconditionally try to impose our views on others, or to browbeat or belittle them for thinking differently from ourselves. Jay

helenbell

helenbell Report 16 Feb 2006 14:44

Hello Pat, still going round in circles lol i'm getting dizzy!! thankyou for your post Pat, i have always respected you and your threads and of course your views, i think sometimes things are said without much thought!! and someones strong opinion makes another person feel intimidated, i have added to threads and been completely ingnored because everyone else is making thier opinion right and the only opinion to have. we need to be and think differently to each other thats what makes the world go round. i just wish some of the threads did'nt have such opinions that is personal to someone else. which is why we should think before we speak/write etc take care Pat Love Helenxx

Pat

Pat Report 16 Feb 2006 14:35

Hi Helen, I don't come on here too much these days either :-( it isn't the same as it was but I would like to add here some of what I think. So many times I have seen on here that's it has been ok for some people to hold certain views and strongly express them & yet others opinions are deemed insignificant, worthless, accidently or deliberately misunderstood to the detriment of good discussion or debate. It is a shame that happens but I suppose it's enevitable. As CB says there are no right or wrong views only different ones and also in my opinion long may we have differences just wish they could all be aired without being attacked for having them. Oh & although your views are different to mine I respect yours as I would hope you would respect mine. Pat x

helenbell

helenbell Report 16 Feb 2006 14:32

Hello David I do think that certain issue's are personal and really should not be the topic of conversation, after all i don't have to justify being hetrosexual no more than you should have to justifty being gay!! and it's not really something we should give such deep opinions on, because it is personal choice, and lets face it,some things do hurt people even if it's not directed at them. i just feel some opinions are best kept to oneself Love Helen

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 13:57

ooo where can I get a 'moorons click' badge ? I want one!!!!

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 16 Feb 2006 13:22

Hi David, I think you've got it in one. General blanket statements usually come over as dogmatic and are bound to offend some people. e.g 'Smokers ....' 'People who have illigimate children.....' We are all human beings and do NOT fit neatly into categories. Jay

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 12:46

Absolutely correct Fred. It is incredibly difficult to write exactly how you want to say something - it never sounds quite the same. I've seen so many instances on this board of someone taking umbrage at what appears to me to be a totally innocuous comment, just as I've seen - what appears to me - an inflammatory comment that is laughed at! It's all a matter of how you interpret what is being written, and that can be a world away from what is truly meant by the writer. Bev x

helenbell

helenbell Report 16 Feb 2006 12:45

Thankyou all for your comments on this thread, i hope it has'nt caused any bad feeling as that was not my intension, i am just a little drop in a very big ocean. i appreciate good positive feedback even if i don't always agree with it Thankyou!! Love Helenxx

helenbell

helenbell Report 16 Feb 2006 12:35

Exactly Jess, so why do some people shout down those with an opinion that differs from thiers??? i am supprised there are dicussions on this board as everyone seems to agree with everyone else!! I have had post ignored because i have not agreed with everyone elses view!! Helen

Jess Bow Bag

Jess Bow Bag Report 16 Feb 2006 12:28

i dont always feel the need to justify my opinions- we are all of our own opinion and that is what makes us what we are. I could justify why i think gay and lesbians are okay people, i shouldn't need to. but i could justify why I think abortion is wrong BUT it may not be wrong for the person that had it/was about to have it - kind of saying that there often isnt a right and wrong. jess

Bec

Bec Report 16 Feb 2006 12:27

*Proudly kisses her 'Moorons Click' Badge'

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 16 Feb 2006 12:23

I'm with roxanne.... and Helen you've created another debate so well done you!!

helenbell

helenbell Report 16 Feb 2006 12:23

Hi Roxanne, I love a good debate, i just dont want it to cause any trouble!! i have had some very good responses to this thread and although i was a bit worried i am glad i posted it!! It's lovely to see you Roxanne!! Love Helenxx

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 16 Feb 2006 12:18

Hi Helen,I always respect yours and everyone elses opinion, I dont think I try to make people believe In my beliefs,I just love a good debate,and love to see everyones opinions:-)) xxx

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 12:18

I agree Bec, every time there's a whiff of heat in a debate, someone throws in 'click' (sic). it's all rubbish. I for one speak my mind on any given subject, no matter who I'm discussing it with.

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 12:16

DM, you're absolutely right. You don't generally get name calling from me. Once, that I'm aware of, I told someone absolutely what I thought of them. I still think I was right on that occasion !

Bec

Bec Report 16 Feb 2006 12:16

*yawns* Trevor - Is it really necessary to bring up the 'clique' issue?

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 12:13

Trevor, she's right, you really should check your facts before you tell someone else they're wrong. Some punctuation wouldn't go amiss either.

Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2006 12:07

I'm seeing a bit of contradiction here at times a) everyone is entitled to voice an opinion b) we shouldn't voice our opinion 'I sometimes think we shuoldn't express our views wholeheartedly' which is it to be ?