General Chat

After we die, it's not the end of our being. I believe that there is something after death, what you percieve that to be - is your belief. I know where I'm going.....I have been there before and back again, so, for those of you who have lost loved ones, like I have, you need to think of them as being with their loved ones who are already there, they are not alone. Stella X

Stella. I completely agree with you. We who have faiths are so fortunate in that we know that we will meet our loved ones, once again. I am happy in the knowledge that , when I am called, My dad, grans, grandpa and various aunts and uncles will be there, for me. Gail

If I did not believe that-I would not be here.

just see what the flames hold

This is right up my street and will reply tommorow. As right now, i'd sooner be alone with my thoughts,,sorry. Valley x

Valley .. sorry to hear about your dad...... no matter the age ..... when the time comes ...... it grips at your heart...just remember all the lovely time you had together..... yes I too beleive this life is just a stepping stone to the next ... Sally xx

Stella When we die I believe that we will see our loved ones, I believe there is a reason why we were born and a reason and time when we die.....

thank you Sally...yes, a stepping stone to the next life. That is so true ! Valley x

Strange I should find this thread, have just added something in similar vein to Hoff's thead about forgetting the date of his mum's death.

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I agree with you Stella, although after my mums death I did loose my faith for a while. My kids have lost alot of family members in their short lives and they have found it a comfort that all the people they have loved and lost are all together, looking down on us making sure we are ok. My son was only 3 when my Grampy died and wanted to know what did they do in Heaven, we told him that he was looking after heaven gardens, since then every loved one we have lost the kids have thought up a job that our loved ones would be best at in heaven, my mums is looking after the babies before they are born and those that have died. Jackiexx

'I am standing on the shore as a great ship gently glides from the harbour and sails toward the horizon. She is beautiful. Sails billowing; shining bright as sunlight sparkling on distant waters. She grows smaller and smaller until at last, her white sails shine as ribbons out where the sky and water mingle as one. And as I watch sadly, thinking ‘Well, she’s gone’, a voice behind me says, ‘Gone ? No she’s not gone. Not really. Only in the sense that you can no longer see her. In reality, she is the same as ever; just as beautiful; just as shining’. And deep in my heart I know that, on another shore someone is crying out, 'Look! Look everyone! Here she comes!'' I came across this last year and plan to read it at my mum's funeral as and when the time comes. Having lost many members of her family, it's lovely to think of them all waiting on the other side to greet her.

A poem by a North American Indian which, for me, gave me much hope and courage when I lost my dad: Do not stand at my grave and weep I am not there, I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow, I am the diamond glint on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain, I am the gentle autumn rain. When you wake in the morning hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circling flight, I am the soft stars that shine at night. Do not stand at my grave and weep, I am not there - I do not sleep. Love and light - Sylvx

Dear Atheist: When was the last time you seriously considered the diversity of nature? Have you ever questioned the instruction you received in the classroom concerning the world you live in? If you are truly open-minded perhaps you will consider the following questions. Does evolution have direct answers to the following elementary questions: How does a big bang explain the innumerable amount of species of living things? Why is there sound and taste? And how did they evolve? Why do some creatures fly, while others swim, and some slither? Why do some creatures have two legs, while others have four and some eight? Why are some species predators while others are prey? Why do some creatures hibernate year after year while others must continue in motion to survive? Why do birds build nests, beavers construct dams, and spiders spin webs? Why are there millions of galaxies and trillions of stars? Why are there springs, rivers, and oceans? Why are there four seasons? Why does sand gather along the coastal shores and in the midst of deserts? Why do birds sing, wolves howl, and cats meow? Why is the world so colorful? Why are there a multitude of foreign languages? Why is the human brain more complex than the most powerful computer? Why do Humans have a conscience while animals have basic instincts? Why does nature possess certain natural laws while humans form laws to govern society? How did all these things come to be and why? Can evolution adequately explain how colors evolved? How does evolution justify which birds fly, which swim, and which migrate? How does evolution account for so many species of sharks? Why could they not all be great whites? Why are there so many different shapes, sizes, and colors of flowers? Why not all evolve into red roses? Why is there big, small, short, and tall? How does evolution address the complex issue of DNA? How does the theory explain why there are no two fingerprints alike or two snowflakes that are identical? If evolution is scientific, why does the theory suffer constant inconsistency and contradiction within evolutionary circles? And why do we teach a theory as if it is indeed a fact? Speculation, not science, is at the root of evolution. For science to be science it must be repeatable and observable. And since NO ONE has EVER observed a whale evolve into a cow, a cat into a dog, or a monkey into a man, we have nothing? The evolutionary process we long to embrace, by the very definition of science, is not scientific at all. So why do the masses believe in and propagate an insane idea called evolution? Is it because you refuse to believe in the obvious alternative, a Creator? And not just any Creator, but a holy One, of which we are all accountable to and will someday face. What is the one thing that God and mankind have in common? Sin, of course. God hates sin and we love it. God gave laws forbidding it and man boasts that laws are meant to be broken. We refuse to be accountable to this God for our transgressions against Him. So what did we do? We exchanged the truth of God for the lie of evolution. Now we can have our cake and eat it too. No longer shall we give an account to the God of the Bible...so it seems. But are you willing to stake your soul on that? The Bible says, 'It is appointed for man to die once, and then the judgment' (Hebrews 9:27). Indeed, Charles Darwin and Carl Sagan now know there is a God! And like them, you too will stand before your Creator to give an account for your offenses against Him. There is, however, a wise alternative. The very God that spoke the universe into existence became a man, was crucified, and raised from the dead. He bids you to come. Will you not do the obvious and turn from your sin and follow the Lord Jesus Christ while you have life?

Monty ~ you really think that? You sound like my 27 year old neighbour that thinks when you die everything just goes 'black' .......Not so!!! Some people really have no idea!!! And I feel sorry for those of you who don't know. I'm not going to list what experiences that I have had from a child onwards, some might think it normal, some might think of it as paranormal - but it is there. Stella X

Monty I resepect we all have our own beliefs.and you are entitled to your belief to, Gwen

Oh Monty..... The Brainwashing theory doesn't tally with me. I wasn't brought up with any religion and I don't go to church. I haven't gone looking for what I have or believe, It comes to me.

Very well said David. I was going to post something similar myself. Thank you. Sylvx

I think it depends if you are a new soul or an old one and I think although some people dont believe in life after death ,well Monty you have put a smile on my face today ,that cant be all bad lol!