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Our Rights to Believe

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Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Mar 2012 14:23

I also 'know' things about Eldrick, ie he has debated with me on the supernatural/religion and vegetarianism without once insulting me personally or unfairly ridiculing my beliefs, whilst putting forward his own reasoned argument.

I am happy to question what I believe, I am happy to have it questioned by others (even though I am right of course ;-) ) and I am happy to question what I perceive to be 'wrong', in religion or any other sphere.

I'd like to add IMHO but it wouldn't be accurate lol, gee but it's hard to be humble ;-)

Julia

Julia Report 8 Mar 2012 14:26

I just hope that the discourse on this thread, does not result in Eldrick disappearing from this board again.
We need more like him. People who are happy to debate, and who by doing so, bring abit of life to this sometime mundane board.

Julia in Derbyshire

ChAoTicintheNewYear

ChAoTicintheNewYear Report 8 Mar 2012 14:57

To get back on track...

I'm not an atheist because I see it as actively not believing in religion as being a christian is actively believing in that religion. On those forms that you fill out where they ask you to put your religion I tend to tick agnostic because irrelevance isn't usually given as an option. That to me is what religion is. If it ceased to exist tomorrow I wouldn't even notice.

I do find religion, as a subject, quite interesting. I have a copy of the bible on my bookshelf, right next to a copy of Dawkins 'The god delusion', I've dipped into both, although I've not actually got around to reading either in any detail just yet. I also have a copy of the Quaran and books about witchcraft/wicca/paganism. However, as a belief system it doesn't feature on my radar.

Yes, I say things like 'oh my god' and 'Jesus christ' but they're just words that don't have any particular meaning, to me, although I suspect some would see them as blasphemy.

Anyway that's my two cents worth...for now ;-)

badger

badger Report 8 Mar 2012 16:30

Well said Joy ,in a few words ,you have hit a thorny nail ,right on the head.
Here we go again ,Religion has caused about every war since the dawn of creation from the wars in the pre bible era ,through to the one in Afghanistan ,brother fighting against brother .
Man always argues that they are right ,and another is wrong ,and there is never going to be an agreement to these issues .
The best way out of this coming war of words , is to call it quits and put this subject to bed .
Please peoples, make love ,not war .Fred. :-D

UzziAndHerDogs

UzziAndHerDogs Report 8 Mar 2012 17:50

I believe that everybody has a right to believe in what they wish to, my grandparents were devout Jehovas Witnesses ...but nobody has the right to try and put their belief on others (Muslims come to mind) .
Everybodies lifes are different and most people are happy having something to belief in..that´s good <
I like Eldrick would defend my family and friends against any harm I thought a belief would bring them.

Uzzi who believes in dragons :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 8 Mar 2012 17:57

well i am a jedi knight
or so my grandson says

cause i can fight the best with the light saber

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 8 Mar 2012 18:25

I know I am not computer literate or text literate so what does OP mean?

Thank you

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 8 Mar 2012 18:28

Chris it means Opening Post x

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 8 Mar 2012 18:30

Thanks Muffy - obvious when you say it! Only one I really remember is SWALK!!!!

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 8 Mar 2012 18:31

No worries Chris :-D

Kay????

Kay???? Report 8 Mar 2012 18:34

First post on a thread Chris,,,,the opening post.


there is a fine line,,,,,,its human nature to defend what you belive in.......its a no win argument,but always results in getting personal...as we've seen.....!!!

ButtercupFields

ButtercupFields Report 8 Mar 2012 18:36

Gosh I always thought it meant Other Person! :-D :-D :-D

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 8 Mar 2012 18:37

I thought it mean opposing person :-S

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 8 Mar 2012 18:39

I understand it to mean original poster.

http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/internetlanguage/f/What-Is-OP.htm

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 8 Mar 2012 19:00

Such a pity Eldrick to see you have been yet again singled and yet again become a target. :-(

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 8 Mar 2012 19:05

nods head wisely @hayley

SheilaSomerset

SheilaSomerset Report 8 Mar 2012 19:06

Thought it was 'Old Person' :-S

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 8 Mar 2012 19:07

In all fairness as soon as I saw this thread it was obvious who it was aimed at.

FGS this is an old old argument ressurected from a few years ago.

I for one, will never get wound up about religion on here again. I will have my beliefs in private & thats where they will stay. If someone feels the need to mock, then if it makes them feel good then I let them. Then turn off or browse the net.

Life's too short .

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 8 Mar 2012 19:17

But as a christian I am duty bound to spread the word of christ and to spread the word ...sadlly I have never have ... :-D

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 8 Mar 2012 23:27


Well.....who says you don't learn anything on here?

I have read all the thread, chewed over the content with much deliberation, coming away much enlightened and quivering with awe at the in depth knowledge of other members....You see,I too thought OP meant 'other' person :-D