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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2101292/They-wear-nappies-drink-cola--dont-know-open-book-One-teachers-terrifying-insight-5-year-olds-failed-parents.html

I would never have believed this had I not seen that Protecting The Children programme Rose mentioned the other day. Stood doing my ironing yesterday and watched all three in a row on iplayer..........to say I ws shocked is an understatement !!!

Hand on heart....to my knowledge though I've never come across 4/5 yr olds in my daughters school who wore nappies......is it really THAT widespread do you think? x

I think it's just ignorance and laziness on the part of the parents, it's not impossible to potty train a 2 year old. Both mine were potty trained day and night by 2 1/2 yrs, and never been a problem since. They both had their own children potty trained by around the same age.

Obviously if there are other factors coming into play, like a mental disability or some such, then things are a lot lot different, ie my brother who is now 34 and has Angelmann's Syndrome, similar to cerebral palsy, is still in adult nappies, but that's a different kettle of fish altogether.

I cant imagine any parent willingly wanting to clean up poo when it could have been sorted by then.

I agree Teresa all mine was done by 2 1/2 aprt from the baby at night she was getting on for 3 but that was my fault trying to keep her a baby.

unless there is an underlying medical problem, its total lazyness on the parents part,

it is not the school responsibility to toilet train our childre its our as parents,

one thing i do see a lot of is children needing dental work, and having teeth out before they fall out naturally,

my littleman has beautiful teeth, he eats sweets, far to many probably if im honest, but he doesnt drink fizzy drinks, and he brushes them regular as well as 6 montly dental checks,

:( poor kids x

I went to the dentist yesterday and I joked with him that am due me gold clock as I have been with him for 22 years he has seen my children grow up, when my eldest joined the army and had his checked they even said to him, your mother has clearly looked after your teeth. My children have lovely nashers sadly I dont. But I do look after them.

Mine were both potty trained by about 2...night time a few months on....

Didn't take more than a week to get them clean as I recall....i did lots of build up to it...like taking them out to chose their own *big girl pants* and bringing the potties out for them to look at and get used to before D Day.....they were both wanting to be clean by then.

I just cna't imagine WANTING to change a 5 yrs olds nappy....surely it has to be easier to potty train.........not to mention the expense !!!!!!!!!!

Stray will just love to have her nappy days all over the net pmsl
both of mine where very good and quick to be dry day and night

You said Stray was 14 Joy..lololololololol

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

IMHO its laziness of the parent/s,in most cases. Even with one special needs kid I have seen the LSA toilet train him/her within a few weeks of repeating toilet trips every 30 mins.The child also started drinking from a cup with no trouble after previously only drinking from a bottle.

Its not the teachers nor TAs place to teach a child to use the toilet or drink from a cup.Its taking them away from educating the rest of the class.

** Likes** :-D

Does it happen often that you have a child that isn't toilet trained etc Mildred...or is it mainly the special needs children where they need the extra help ????

I'm really shocked by this I have to say ! x

That's awful....and the article written by the teacher does stress that the homes are *not* all from a deprived council estate. Play groups, nurseries or other community organised pre-school groups are available to most, if not all children, regardless of income.

Poverty does not preclude the ability to play with your child, or to provide them with books from the library to look at together. Counting out cutlery when putting them back in the drawer or the number of plates needed for a meal cost nothing.

One would have thought that the children of the quoted high earners would have been more concerned about their childs development. However, that could have been left to well meaning but undervalued au pairs of foreign extraction.

A friend accompanies a Reception teacher on home visits in a deprived area. She too was shocked seeing 50 inch plasma TV, loads of DVD's, but no toys or books in sight. Electronics are the new babysitters!

Like Muffy, I'm not aware of reception classes children being still in nappies. However, at the pre-admission group parents meeting for one of ours, one mother was concerned that her daughter wouldn't get her early afternoon nap. At the age of 5????

:-S ladies i was a good girl,

Yes we know Stray you was always in and out of your litter tray ....Meeaooow lololol :-D :-D :-D :-D

Yes I noticed that bit too DET....that it was all scales of the social spectrum doing this.

Have they no shame !!!!!!!

:-S "sharpens claws"

:-| come ready or not

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"Does it happen often that you have a child that isn't toilet trained etc Mildred...or is it mainly the special needs children where they need the extra help ????"
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Its the first time I've been aware of any child who has not been toilet trained at all at school starting age. :-(
Also to add the child never wore a nappy to school as the school refused to accommodate the child with one.

Sadly in this case it was due to poor parenting skills. The child even though SEN, trained really quickly with the help of the LSA, as quickly as any other child.

All it needed was a little effort from the parent who sadly left it to others to do despite regular meetings beforehand in the transition from nursery to school.

Lots of littlies are coming in at just turned four, due to just having a Sept intake. So you do get the odd expected accident even from toilet trained kids which is expected & dealt with.

By the time a child starts school (severe SEN or disability aside) they should be able to use the toilet & deal with their own personal hygiene afterwards. They should also be able to drink from a cup unaided, and should be able to self feed using at least a fork or spoon..

Theres nothing more rewarding in watching children manage life skills, and I remember my son (almost 17) on his first day at pre school age 2 and a half. It was his taster day, and I will always remember him along with the others, spread his bit of butter & jam on his toast for snack by himself . :-D
I remember the countless trips to empty the po, after potty training finally clicked, and the round of applause each time :-D

now it seems some parents just think everything should be taught by the school instead of taking responsibility themselves. Added to that they miss the joy of experiencing their kids triumphs that many of us have had :-|

Whats the Odds on Hayley Having some "Display" Nappies ???? :-D