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I suppose my 22 year old grandson is lucky as he has a job of sorts working full time (although his hours have recently been cut) delivering pizzas. However that is not why he went to Uni and got a degree. (he finished Uni in July). He is in Plymouth and there are no jobs he can apply for. Well actually he applied for two but heard nothing. He went to the job centre and they advised him to go to job seekers!! Even he knew he wasn't eligible as he had a job, albeit a lowly one. Fortunately he is just holding his head above water as his Mum who shares the mortgage on his flat is paying his share as well at the moment.

That's very interesting. I wonder why the youngsters are not taking up the opportunities offered. I come from the North East and that's where I got my work ethic from. It seems that has now been lost. Needs some research for the reasons.

Vera

Same as my G.son Ann he too has a degree from Uni.and is 23.
Went to London on promise of a placement,gave up his partime job,then couldn't claim 'dole' .....placement didn't materialise so he's back home now.Good thing both his parents are working,but they can't claim so fingers crossed he's lucky second time around.
It makes me soo angry when folk say youngsters don't want to work.....

Ok...bear with me on this...right so.........School leaving age is now 18 then? Else they have to go to college or have a job. Have grasped that much lol.

Once they then leave at 18 are these schemes still available to them...and if unpaid...do they qualify for any benefit whilst they're on them...even if it's not JSA?x

To lighten the mood a bit , I was just looking at the Jobcentre site...irresistable :))

"Christmas Elves

This role will be suitable for cheerful and sociable candidates who are happy to interact with families. Will be working in an exciting and busy Christmas grotto. Experience in an performing environment would be useful."

:-D :-D

Lol Rose, they obviously need several months to practice.

No, school leaving age is still 16 as far as I know. But for those who choose not to go to college, or failed to qualify to go to college or further education, they get nothing, no benefits etc, unless they are not living at home.

I have deleted my long and rambling post because if was off topic.

It probably served it's purpose though because I was feeling somewhat hacked off and now feel a bit better after my moaning rant. :-)

I when i left school i was 15 as i was one of the youngest in my class so i couldnt work for a bit but i did seek out a YTS. I signed up and indeed started my placement on my 16 birthday and never looked back had a fun career so far.

Miracles happen. I've had an acknowledgement of an application I made the other day. No actual interview but at least they've acknowledged it.

Hope it's the first of many Cat, but with interviews and a good job following :-D

There is a problem for those attending University these days.
By the time the University students come onto the open job market , the qualifications they have achieved just don't match the jobs avaliable.
The kids that studied to A level and then entered the job market have gone on to employment and had 2/3 years experience in the Companies with vacancies.
In those 2/3 years some of those with A level education have worked their way up to the job level University students expect as a start in employment but they already have the training, track record and job experience within the Company that the University students just don't have.
Hope this makes sense

Teresa I hear what you are saying I think .......that lots of the under 19 's if are unemployed are given more oppartunities that over 19yrs old on JSA, if that is what you are saying then I agree 100% and basically I think the point Muffy is trying say but again I maybe wrong is that all these dogooders whom claim the poor yuff of today have nothing no hope and nowt to look forward to are speaking out of their albows, they had more than we did in the 1980's.................. :-D

That's not what I'm saying at all. 16-18 year olds get nothing, they are basically on their own if they dont' go on to college or a job, Over 18's are entitled to claim JSA, under 18's are not, if they are still living at home.

(trying to see where I said the opposite ;-) )

PMSL I wasn't really trying to say anything Hayley tbh...I was trying to work out what the system was these days for school leavers...remembering how hard things were for us school leavers back in the day.

I'm genuinely clueless about this as my children are still of the age where this sort of thing isn't even on my radar....but it should be.

I remember well the attitude of some of my peers to my doing a YTS at the time so it doesn't surprise me that the *why should I* culture in some still prevails.

But from what folk have said on here..it does appear that parental pressure plays/played a huge part in whether or not a school leaver took the meagre opportunities presented...or whether they were allowed to not bother.

Certainly for all those who toughed it out for a couple of years on a YTS it was a stepping stone to bigger and better things.

For those that didn't........the vast majority never got into a habit of work and to my knowledge (having attended a school reuinion 8 yrs ago) never have since. x

You didnt have to say it I .....its how I read it....

:-D

There not on there own they can sign on with connextions, and recieve a lower rate of benefit ,

we have a family member who when leaving school was forever moaning about having no job and no money, my second son was at that doing the connextions things I rang the trainer women and told her and ask if there was anything she could advise, she told me there was no placements at the moment but asked her to go at 1.30 the following day excitedly I rang FM and gave her the information, the following afternoon I rang FM to see how she went on, ohh great I have to go back next thursday thanks Hayley, half hour later the trainee women rang she hadnt even bother to turn up I could of died of shame, I told Itsmytelly who said that day at 1.30 he droved past FM going in to the local scally pub she was only 16, 6 years down the line aged 22 still never worked, everyday she posts on FB " what to do today" no mention of trying to find a job she is so used to managing on her JSA.

Well I'm glad there is something out there for those that want to give it a go...

I'm trying to remember exactly what I was paid and if my memory serves......it was £27 in the first year going up to the princely sum of £32 in the second.

My friend who was working in retail at the same time was earning £110 per week...god was I ever jealous lol x

my future son in law.age 21 doing a bricklaying apprentiship(hes on his 2nd yr)he works 50 hrs a wk for a wage of £100pw, but has he said,it will be worth it in the long run,hes doing thisnow so in the future he will be able to provide for his family(he has a 11m old daughter with my daughter) my daughter also works and at the moment they are just scraping by,but its always hard in the beginning,things will get better has time goes by.

Thanks Rose :-)

in 1983 I got £25.00 + £2.50 towards my travel it was 1 year and I was given a full time job at the end, if you remember when they first started about 1981/82 employers where having the trainees for a year sacking them and get another lot, they put a stop to that, anyway I worked for this guy till 1987 my wage went up to £41.00 a week after stoppages but I had got that use to managing on £25.00 thats all I used to draw. And OMG I remember having a bank balance with my first £100.00 I felt like rockafella..