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ever traced an ancestor where no records existed?

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Paul

Paul Report 17 Apr 2011 14:44

mods/admins please delete/move if you think something is wrong with post

Say you had an illegimate ancestor, you were able to surmise who it was, even though no records existed of who it is(in two cases i think i have)
One interesting thing i have noticed is that in some cases there is a 9 month gap between illegimate child's mother baptism anniversity and child's baptism(sarah lockley was baptised August 24? 1793,but parents ann lockley/martin lucas were baptised 3 december 1771/1776 supposedly)
in three cases of no marriages existing, i have traced the spouse(I went back 56 years from baptism last of child to calcalute spouses rough year of eg last child baptised 1772 ,spouse born 1716 or later,
which happened in case of John/rachael piper,i worked out rachael is properbly rachael luffman baptised 1719 kings somborne, same with john/grace hankin,grace is properbly grace copperthwaite(mother a hankin?,interestingly)

Paul

Paul Report 17 Apr 2011 14:45

John/grace hankin were of monk sherborne

Paul

Paul Report 17 Apr 2012 21:19

I think i have worked out the father of an illegimate child even though no records exist of whom that person is.
One thomas wiggins of boddicote born 1789?
father believed to be a child of joshua and elizabeth swallow of headington/oxford area.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Apr 2012 21:24

Well you've lost me lol

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 17 Apr 2012 21:27

You beat me to it Rose :-P

I have a couple of dead ends where a child was born out of wedlock and I have no hope of tracing the child's father..........couldn't even begin to guess!

Sue

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Apr 2012 21:39

Paul do come back and explain,

JackyJ1593

JackyJ1593 Report 17 Apr 2012 21:47

I know I have had a drink but I'm lost! :-S :-S

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 17 Apr 2012 21:56

Think you should put this thread on Suggestions Board Paul !! :-S

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Apr 2012 22:15

It should be on genealogy chat, but even there I wouldn't understand it lol. I do wish Paul would come back :-D

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 17 Apr 2012 22:22

I am sooooooooooo tempted to research the names....how sad is that? :-(

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Apr 2012 22:24

very ;-) ..... so am I LOL

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 17 Apr 2012 22:28

I will leave to you two then :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2012 23:41

I'd like to know who my lovely Mum's father was - she would liked to have known as well!!! answers on a postcard please :-D

jax

jax Report 18 Apr 2012 02:02

You may have to wait until the 17th April 2013

Look at the date of his opening post :-D

Janet

Janet Report 18 Apr 2012 12:44

If only I too could understand. The nearest I got to finding out my gt grandfather's father was that given he was born in early February in Blackburn in 1846, what was going on around May the 1st the year before. Must have been more than dancing round the Maypole.-jl

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2012 12:55

LOL Jax, so Paul appears only on the same day each year :-D

I expect the other 364 days are spent in deep concentration on old records and mathematical equations?

Paul

Paul Report 24 Apr 2012 22:57

I am descended from Thomas/samuel wiggins born c.1789 to sarah wiggins boddicott.
The story really starts with his sarah lockley baptised 28? august 1793,her reputed father was martin lucas baptised 3 december 1766,her mother ann lockley supoosedly 3 ,december 1771,3 december comes 9 months before 28? august.
thomas/samuel wiggins was baptised supposedly 3 july 1789? but mother was baptised 26 november 1764? chipping norton to ed and bridg wiggins.
I surmise that perhaps like his wife,the date of baptism might be significance and wondered if 26 november or wher abouts the father was born.

Because I couldn't trace marriage,i ordered a birth certificate of one george swallow wiggins which revealed mother maiden name(sarah lockley).
Looking at new igi i found richard swallow 26 november 1776? headington oxon.
Interesting richard grandmother appears to be a browning,only sarah lockley is supposed to be descending from a browning family,if i rember correctly.
same family have martins which made me wonder if lucas family are related to them as well

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Apr 2012 23:20

I still don't understand lol

Allan

Allan Report 24 Apr 2012 23:24

The only Browning Familt that I know came from a place called Gravy, and that makes about as much sense as this thread :-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Apr 2012 23:28

well I am trying to understand, but it's hard when your brain hurts lol.

If anyone could explain it to me simply I would be ever so grateful :-D