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Seemingly this is the 3rd incident with Andy Gray at Sky but the women didn't say anything before.too scared more than likely..

Yes he should have been sacked because if he hadn't been heard talking like he did..it would have carried on to the next victim..

And all it is

It's the Victorian attitude that has to go from men's minds about women.
Some men think that women are easy pickings for either picking on them just because they are women or sexual facours..


Just glad he has gone..

There must be those amongst us 'girls' who, if we are honest, have come across the office groper (who was probably in the shops, factories also) and all that could be done in those days was to try to avoid him.

I can recall in my first job as a junior shorthand-typist, (four flights of stairs up) where a department manager (from two floors above that) used to lie in wait on the stairs around 5.30 when juniors would be running down stairs to catch the Post Room. There was no one to turn to in those days.
Why should anyone be subjected to suggestive talk etc in the workplace?

I agree with Muffy up to a point about being 'snitched on', but I have (nearly) always been VERY careful what I say at work, even in 'banter'. I have no doubt that this man has 'form' - the trouser incident shows which way the wind blows and I would bet that it wasn't an isolated incident. There's no place for such behaviour in the workplace.

"Why shouldn't a Scotsman commentate on ENGLISH football or even the other way round?
As far as I know the game is played in exactly the same way both sides of the border!"

Very true Joan. It's almost like saying the women shouldn't commentate on football games played by men.

Scotland is still part of the UK. Andy actually played for English clubs too so is perfectly qualified to offer an opinion on English clubs.

Also Andy lives in England so do you expect him to uphaul his family and move North if the border?

Looks like there's going to be a murrrrrrda !

LOL

I can understand perfectly him having to go because of the trouser incident ..totally go with that...but still maintain that you should be able to have a casual conversation with a colleague without fear of being *snitched* upon if your views aren't to the person who overhears' taste ! x

Now the other one has gone .............................. so much for it all being nothing more than a mole hill !

Shown on 10.00 p.m. news Andy Gray fiddling with his trousers and asking a female employee 'would you like to tuck this in for me?'.

'That deserves a sacking , he has no respect for women' and this last comment came from a man - my OH.

Apparently Andy Gray has not just been sacked for this offence but another on video re a Skye employee last month has surfaced.

It wasn't broadcast...nor was it ever intended to be Marion.

They were miked up ready for their broadcast and were chatting while they were waiting to do their interview...x

Oh,sorry though it wasnt live and didnt go out.

Bit of a hoohaa to me anyway lol

Marion it was live,}}}}}}},

they didnt know a mike was picking up everything they said.

.was it a trap????

Andy Gray ==other unacceptable incidences have been brought into it now ,thats why hes been booted off.

Andy Gray was a footballer.Eddieisgrandad.

I dont know the first thing about football.
Maybe I'm wrong but why did it have to come out in the open anyway...it wasnt live. how many other commenst are made we dont hear about.
Somebody doing a bit of stirring maybe.


Marion

Then they'll have to sack all the other 3 involved in it too.

Richard Keys..the reporter that Gray was talking to...and *steve* the camera man who said *he would*.

Ridiculous.

(and I'm no fan of Andy Gray either cos he hates Spurs lol ) x

Andy Gray has been sacked.

I agree with Stray - they were silly, but no-one's died and it's been blown up out of all proportion. Evidently the lady in question is a very strong character and can well defend herself - the boys should watch their lunchboxes if she meets them anytime soon!

Answer to your question Muffy no, I havet a clue lol.

I thinks it's gone a bit ott, the whole thing. A lot worse has gone on.
They are not the first to slip up and wont be the last.


Marion

much worse has likely been quoted about say, the mother in law or women drivers,and men that cant sew a button on........or work the washing machine.....

there will always be friction between the opposite sexes about the way they see the other's performance.............

At the risk of being pedantic, there is no "off side rule" in Association Football. We do not have rules, we have the "Laws" of the game.

Personally I hope is a permanent suspendion for Andy Gray, he really is a total plonker and only employed in the role for his "wind-up " value. Furthermore, why on earth have a Scotsman commentating on English football anyway?

i think theres far more important things going on in the world
show me somebody whos never made a sexist remark
and i will show you a fibber

no i dont think they should be sacked
i think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill