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16 Apr 2010 17:20 |
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Julie
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16 Apr 2010 15:54 |
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Good job it doesn't bother me when people don't reply cos if i did & was pulling out my hair over it then i would be bald by now.....i sent a message to someone 6 years about & never heard a dicky bird lol
წ.Julie.წ
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StrayKitten
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16 Apr 2010 11:57 |
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well said daffy, xxxxx
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Beverley
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16 Apr 2010 11:52 |
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Hi Daff
Thanks for the welcome. I can fully understand your frustration with such people who are just so impatient. Maybe it's more the fault of the internet. Some people just get hooked on the instant response and then get angry when it doesn't happen. Just look at people with mobile phones. They HAVE to check their phone every 30 seconds to see if anyone is possibly trying to contact them. Maybe we should all slow down and go back to snail-mail. Oh, those were the days - a response would have taken weeks or even months just a few years ago. You wouldn't hear too much then about lack of response within 24 hours.
I also hate the templated list and sometimes wonder if these people who complain use them because they are 'easy'. Well, sometimes easy isn't always best. I prefer a personal message any day. I have ignored templated messages if they are the first contact because it says nothing about the person contacting you.
Enjoy your day and weekend. Beverley
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MrDaff
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16 Apr 2010 11:31 |
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Hiya Beverley.... I have actually been on the boards for a while.... this sort of thing has really irritated me for quite some time, even before my illness... I know that people haven't intended it directly for me... they use a generalisation, just as I have done... the universal *they*.
But I am one of the *they* that is being complained about. My point is that I would like the people who are complaining and getting frustrated with non-responders to stop, for a second, thinking about how angry, frustrated and cross it makes THEM feel..... and wonder WHY some people may not be responding.... how THEY have been feeling... what has been going on in their lives that means they are unable and/or unwilling to respond? Maybe that pause will help them to understand.... and ease their own frustration and impatience.
I have always been like that, it is more or less second nature to me.... and I cannot for the life of me understand how some folk can get all het up and angry because someone on a website isn't talking to them!! So to speak. There seems to be no empathy, or understanding. I have had the same, insofar as I have had non-responders. Sometimes I go back a while later and ask again, other times I cut my losses. But I never complain, as I am aware of how easily real life stuff can intrude and take over. As a footnote to that.... I never ever use the set responses, I always write my own.. and always write my own requests, with info on the family I have a connection with.
I don't like the templated list that GR have, I think they are curt and rude, and I do admit that I have sometimes been tempted not to reply to people who use them... but I still do when I am able.
The other shenanigens... well, they happen, and I am well used to them now.... the mud slinging on other issues hasn't been aimed at me, although some dreadful things have been said about people I care very much about, so that has hurt.
But it most certainly hasn't been the impetus behind this thread.
Love
Daff xxx
Oh, and welcome .... sorry, lost my manners there for a bit. xx
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Beverley
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16 Apr 2010 10:56 |
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Hi Daff
I'm really sorry that you feel it's so personal to you. I'm sure no-one complaining was thinking specifically of someone in your situation but, a lot of mud has been thrown around lately and it has hurt you, obviously. My way of dealing with the non-response is to send out lots of messages at one time (sometimes saving them up) so I will probably get one message almost instantly and others when I least expect it. I find this works for me. Don't be angry Daff - the people on here are wonderful. Just remember that and ignore the rest.
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MrDaff
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16 Apr 2010 10:55 |
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Hello Sheila, you snuck in there!!
I totally agree! Well, I would, wouldn't I? *blushes at stating the obvious* lol
Love
Daff xxxx
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MrDaff
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16 Apr 2010 10:54 |
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Lol Elisabeth, I am having a *black hole* day.... all my energy has disappeared into it!! They are becoming much more infrequent thankfully, and I have bags more energy than I had..... but every so often, Wham!
I am going to sit tidy here in the conservatory and doze, lolol
~~~~~ to Ann xxx
Love
Daff xxxx
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SheilaSomerset
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16 Apr 2010 10:51 |
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Well said, Daff, and I agree with all you say. I sometimes don't respond for a long time, and sometimes I get a message out of the blue in response to a query I sent ages ago! I am grateful for all responses I get, but don't 'have a go' when people don't reply - everyone has different constraints, free time, priorities, and different reasons for having their tree on here. If people 'pester' me with a whole series of messages, I am much more likely to ignore them!
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Elisabeth
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16 Apr 2010 10:41 |
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Daff,
I agree completely. There are so many reasons why people don't reply. As in your case serious illness, computer problems, disinterest etc. There are, I suspect, many who see a tv programme or advert for GR or Ancestry and join, put a small tree on the sites and then completely forget about it. So many change their email address, so never get any notification of a message. (I have quite a few unopened messages in my sent box.)
Have a happy day and potter in the garden for a while to chill. That is what I am going to do.
Elisabeth xx
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AnninGlos
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16 Apr 2010 10:25 |
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Sorry that was me deleted.
People don't reply for all sorts of reasons, frustrating but nothing anyone says on here will change it. Just be happy with those who are able to reply. There are worse things in life.
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MrDaff
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16 Apr 2010 09:50 |
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absolutely..... and to be honest, I am so cross over it, that I made a decision yesterday to stay off the boards, in case I let rip!! But then I thought.... I have the right to reply/respond, and as long as I am polite, then people who complain, in effect, about ME, have no comeback if I choose to complain about THEM!
And yep.... I have taken it personally, as I know that although I tried hard to respond (Here and on Ancestry) I am only just beginning to catch up. And it has been such a struggle, then I find folk complaining on the WWW about me and others like me...... so yep, it IS personal.
Love
Daff xxxx
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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2**
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16 Apr 2010 09:44 |
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Well said Daff. I'm getting fed up about people complaining about other members. None of us are perfect but some seem to think they are superior and seem to look down or get irritated by people who don't conform to how they think the boards or site should be run. Don't know if that makes sense.
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MrDaff
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16 Apr 2010 09:27 |
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about non-replies A global reply
*sighs*
Well, I had treatment for Leukaemia, which meant that for quite a while I had neurological problems, I don't want sympathy, I don't need it... I have lots of support and that is all I need, and have needed... I couldn't read for a while, I was busy being seriously ill, almost dying (times 3) and spending lots of time trying to stay alive, oh, and and sleeping, how lazy of me when I could have been answering my pm's and scurrying off to research for those too impatient to wait.....
There are many people with accounts still active who have suffered similar, or who lost their battle.
I am so pleased that it appears you have experienced nothing like that in your life, and I really do hope you never do.
But I am now really hacked off at the plethora of people who come on here, and complain about people like me..... every week there is at least one thread such as this.
To those people who are able to answer in 24 hours, or whatever... good for you, and long may it continue.
But for those people who, like me, get upset at this sort of thread, who are normally conscientious about answering their e-mails, but through circumstances beyond their control have been unable to, (and in my case often forget these days) I say:-
Don't feel guilty, you do not have to reply to any pm or request that is made to you if you do not wish to, or are unable to. There is no law or contract obliging you to do so. And I do hope that your circumstances change soon.
And I hope that the folk who put up this sort of haranguing thread will, in time, come to have some empathy and understanding of the fact that others may not be able, to reply, may not want to reply, and you might just have to accept this and move on!
With love
Daff xxx
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