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DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE RULES AGAINST RACIST COMMENTS IN SCHOOL.

Hi Kellie, dont think we spoke before, Welcome if you are new to chat.

I can't answer your question but I know a man that can..........if he is about......will ask him to look at your thread..x

I would say it is up to the head teacher and governors of each school to decide what, if any, action to take, depending on the result of the investigation into any alleged racist remarks.

The first person to contact would be the headteacher of the school.

In ar school its zero tolerence x

I've dropped you a pm Kellie

...and there is the man I mean.................

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BBC NEWS | Education | How schools deal with racism
7 Apr 2006 ... In addition, government guidelines say each school must have its own anti-bullying policy, which normally covers racist abuse. ...

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Hi Kelly

I don't think we've spoken before, extends hand of friendship, hi I'm Shimmer.

It was zero tolerance in our school too, all schools have various Policies, there should be a file for viewing in the Reception area. xxx

Hi Whirley, Tony, Dizzi, Mel, Kitty, Blue Moon xxx

THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS.
IT'S ALSO ZERO POLICY AT MY DAUGHTERS HIGH SCHOOL,BUT WHAT IF A PUPIL (MY DAUGHTER) COMES OUT WITH A COMMENT WHICH IS CLASSED AS RACIST, BUT WAS NOT INTENDED IN A RACIST WAY. CAN THERE BE SUCH A THING OR IS A RACIST COMMENT ALWAYS A RACIST COMMENT, NO MATTER THE INTENTION

You will have to take it up with the school.............they will investigate and make their judgement on the incident.

Tricky one that Kelly, if i call someone for example a 'Mick' ie Irish, because I have an irish background it wouldn't be intended as an insult...if on the other hand I call someone a 'thick mick" has a different connotation...

would say it is in the intent, but also the age of child, if it is meant 'knowingly' or just something she has picked up elsewhere...

The keyword in this type of incident is "perceived".

If the incident or comment is perceived by anyone observing to be of a racist nature it must be investigated as such.

The Home Office Code of Practice 2000 advises that all agencies use the definition of a racist incident recommended by the Macpherson Report - "A racist incident is any incident, which is perceived to be racist by the victim, or any other person."

when a pupil is racist in any way shape or form they are removed and it is investigated thoroughly by HoD/HoY to ascertain the facts they err on the side of caution to begin with but they will listen to what was said and how it was said before they have the hard task of deciding how to move forwards on it x

Has your daughter been suspended Kellie? If so, you should have been notified of the amount of days the suspension is for, then have to attend a special meeting chaired by the Headteacher, others present.

You could, if you are unhappy, make an appointment to see the HT. Have you read the school policy on such matters?

we've done the normal thing and talked to the teacher involved but all they would say was that they they had zero tolerence for a racist comments in school. Which is correct, but what they didn't seem to understand or don't care to understand is that my daughter didn't meant it as a racist comment (in fact she didn't know it was racist ) and it will now go on her school record.

I agree with the word perceived as in ...

I have always said that if I was intervening, say in an argument, and the child then turned round and called me something, I would say, "You take 5, I'll take 20, find me when you have calmed down.", situations like those are where they are not thinking clearly. However, if it was intentional wherein I had no doubt whatsoever it was a direct insult, then I would have no hesitation in taking them straight to the HT.

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Talking personally about me. What I perceive to be one thing can be interpreted by another completely differently.

its tricky now its all pc you see some find a thing rascist n it don't involve em like Rose said those woo are involved usually it goes over the head but in a classroom I fear someone can make an off hand comment and most the time they have heard it else where the ahhh's go round the room and it gains momentum teachers have a hard task but zero tolerence means exactly that and the teacher has to follow correct procedures and go through the correct channels sorry thats just how it is its not just rascim either I heard a story recently about a class having a picture of Charles the first in front of them and being asked to write one word to describe how he looked one pupil wrote the word "gay" ~ which in all intents and purposes has duel meaning that pupil was immediatly removed and suspended down to policy which I find appalling ~ put the shoe on the other foot as it were Kellie another pupil says something discriminatory against your child would you not expect zero tolerence then? The pupils are paramount in any school policy!

What did she say?

Uggers asks the question we all want to (well i did anyway) lol

I think the girl on BB a couple of years ago when she used the N word didn't meant it as a racist comment either, but the bottom line was it is.

I do think this PC malarkey is going to far......And i was talking only today to my OH about Love Thy Neighbour & the things we used to say when i was at school