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I think we should all chip in
and buy Colin a copy of the
"Spore" computer game.
He might learn something.
(I wonder if they market a
Creationist version?)
xxxx mick
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LOL Mick
Yes that game looks fun......but as someone who got really addicted to Tetris and Lemmings I think I'm safer staying away! I spend enough time on the computer as it is.
I spent my teenage years in Lyme Regis on the south coast of England where fossils are abundant. I found a vertebra from an ichthyosaur in our garden (identified by a professor of paleontology). Every now and then (usually in the summer when Bible missions would come to run activities on the beach) there would be meetings in the town hall with fairly heated debates. My sister (a geologist) and I somehow actually got invited to one once and how we sat through the pseudo-science lecture that went first I don't know. I do remember my sister and I getting quite vocal in the debate that followed!
I joined an astronomical society in my late teens and went on star gazing meetings and even holidays. I find the wonders of space fascinating. I have never been able to work out how creationists equate star light coming from millions of light years away with a supposed creation only 10 thousand years ago (which is what the most extreme believers think). Their arguments need to ditch so much mainstream science and few seem to realise that evolution is only one of many theories which they have to ignore.
I taught about dinosaurs etc when I was a Primary teacher which did annoy my school head who was and is a creationist. He is also still a very good friend but we steer clear of certain topics of discussion. It was a bit amusing a few years ago when he was visiting us at the same time as our daughter. He asked her what she was doing and I was frantically trying to make signs to her to just say studying old bones but she's a paleoanthropologist so her specialism is the evolution of early man.
I am finding the books on the latest DNA findings fascinating. It is all confirming the links between all living things on Earth. The way in which within us there still remain redundant (known as fossil) genes is very interesting. We have lost for example about half of our sense of smell simply because we no longer need it and that part of our gene code is now corrupted.
We are all used to the idea that DNA can be used to confirm relationships between people and we are familiar with its use in criminal cases. It seems odd to me that the same idea when species are compared suddenly becomes a no no.
If species share most of their DNA then they are closely related. If similar DNA were simply scattered about among creatures then it would (I think) logically mean that humans with similar DNA couldn't be assumed to be related.
Sue
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Yes Sue - it is all far more wondrous and
beautiful than any Creationist nonsense!
(the last time I posted that, my post
"disappeared!- so much for free and fair debate!)
xxxx mick
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Trouble is, the Bible account of creation is that simpley put down,that the average person cannot understand it, had it been put down in scientific terminology, it would definateley have confused
man down through the ages, after all folkes, your
still using all the educational digits of the Ancient
Greeks, which leads me to think this evolution dont
move very quickly educationally
Mick, this probebley beyond you, so stick with
your Digere do xxxx
colin
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Simply put - yes
The simple explanations of nomadic
goat herders 4000 years ago!
Not a lot of relevance to the modern scientific world mate!
xxxxx mick
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Surely there is room on this big planet of ours..for us to have our own ideas..based on whatever our brain and/or heart decide......
I hate to see a debate decend into who thinks who is right or wrong by being insultive to each other
PLEASE be kind to one another....
Our concern should be....not how we got here (although interesting)....but how we can conserve and improve life on earth for mankind, and make the world a healthier, and safer place to be.......
cmd xxxxxxxxxxx
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Colin,Just a Small Point,You say "Quote" Your."Sorry" You,re using the "Educational Digits of the" Ancient Greeks".What " Digit" are you using? Would it happen to be the Middle finger of your right Hand.:o))))>**M**
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I'm at a loss to know Colin what the Ancient Greeks have to do with any of this. They were only at the earliest 4000 years ago and that was their ancestors in Minoan Crete .
If you were to imagine the evolution of man as extending the length of a football pitch then the length of time in man's historical history is only a couple of steps.
Then that whole space of time since earliest hominids is a tiny fraction of geological time.
Our own ideas are fine cmd but if we put forward ideas on an open forum then it is not being wrong to put forward alternatives.
A faith of any kind which denies facts is open to debate. If the holder of a belief is ignorant of the facts then that is sad.
I think my way of seeing it is that science explains the how while religion can perhaps explain the why. The vast majority of Christians do not see any problem with evolution.
Sue
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