General Chat

A good point spoiled by biblical OT mumbo jumbo for which there is no basis at all.

Even the church accepts that the story of the flood was not true and was based on a flood of the Euphrates.

Global warming is not true because science says so, not the bible.

Al Gore is a polititian,failed to make it as president
the people prefering a more down to earth chap like
mr Bush.Failing polititians are like failing film stars
singers, footballers etc,Some just need the publicity
cannot do with out it.
If science is to be accepted, it backs up the historic
record of the floods,found in the holy bible and other
ancient texts.
So accepting these, we have to conclude that following the months of waters covering the earth
the trees would have been in no condition to make
oxygen. Further most of the earth would have been covered in ice--as God said to Job is it not out of
my bellie comes the frosts---words simular.
So no trees for many years,just frost and earth
quakes and Volcanoes, these formed the mountains
and terrain we see today.
So everything survived this tumultous time.WHY
as psalms remind us, the Earth remains for ever
and mankind up on it(And the living God put the
ability to overcome anything in all his creation.)
Eventually nature becomes immune to all disease
etc. But its not immune from Gods judgements
as Sodom found out, as the Jews found out on
the plains of Moab and jesus spoke of a great
tribulation to occur in our time.
so Global warming rubbish.
colin F

Well it seems Channel ¤ didnt get done for misrepresentation, its facts held but a deal of critic of the interview techniques being some what biased.
in the programme "The Big Global Warming Swindle"
so if the facts were correct ?

Everybody should read Michael Crichtons 'State of Fear'

On talk radio it has been mentioned a few times about our weather, and they came to the conclusion , that it was the axis of the world ,had changed miniscule , that is why we are getting all these changes (dont shout at me i am only saying) As you say Colin Tax on everything , we shall only be able to breath out soon instead of breathing in lol Chris

Okies Terry..no need to shout I aint deaf!

Butting out now....

Have a lovely day everyone!

Kim

Yes I actually did!! I also watched Bambi when I was little and belived in in it but I'VE GROWN UP AND NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO READ GATHER FACTS AND REALISE BOTH PICTURES HAVE SOME TRUTHS IN THEM but the glaciers in southern Norway are growing again, the Greenland ice cap is getting thicker, see reports from independent sources
aS FOR THE SHOWING OF aL'S FILM IT WAS TAKEN TO THE HIGH COURT AND THE JUDGES THERE AS ANYONE WILLING TO SOURCE OUTSIDE THE SO CALLED GLOBAL WARMING GANG. FOUND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT LACKED A SUFFICIENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND WAS BIASED IN ITS PRESENTATION OF THOSE FACTS IT HAD
I for one would like a real discussion , and real alternatives because yes we do have to clean up our act.
regards Terry

yes of course flooding has been a threat for centuries....lol always...somewhere in the world...

I think trying not to accelerate or aggravate a bad situation is no bad thing?

'IF 'natural' global warmimg is even partly aggravated by our 'man-made'greenhouse gas emissions then the rate at which the ice caps melt is affected surely? and no that may not cause any more flooding...but it will affect the warm current which passes the UK (the Gulf stream) and thus our climate....

I am not well up on the Gulf Stream to be honest , I am sure someone will be able to explain its affect on the environment, fishing etc...

Terry/George..Have you actually watched Al Gores film?

There was enough scientific evidence there to convince me....perhaps our Govmt have other reasons for not wanting it shown in schools..just a thought.

Kim

So what caused Dunwich to be swallowed up by the sea in the 14/15th century?
Coastlines are not permanent structures - they move - that is the nature of the beast - it is NOT global warming!!

I would believe government 'Gobal warming' propoganda more if it wasn't all take take take from them
I actually got excited when a carbon 'passport' was considered, where those who don't use up all their quota could sell it to the greedy ones. Fantastic I thought - then those of us who don't drive and don't go flying off every couple of months or so could gain something!!
BUT - this would mean penalising the wealthy - making them pay something extra at the benefit to the POOR.
So this idea was sidelined.
Next idea? Tax older cars more!! YES. All those 'poor' people who have the audacity to buy second hand cars (or recyclers) should pay more NOW. Not in the future, but now, because they are doing the car manufacturers out of money, and how close are governments to car manufacutrers? Pretty close I'd say!!

If they really wanted people to drive their cars less, they'd develop a decent public transport system - one that was run for the benefit of the people not for the profit of the company.

maggie

Grief places got flooded before 1990 and houses got washed and the sea swept in
sea ice melting doesn't raise sea levels, and if you looked at NASA's global temperatures over the last twenty years you'd find they have peaked in 1998 and are sinking again.
Agree we do need to clean up our act.
regards
Terry

As far as I can see the only "Global Warming/Hot Air" Comes from inside "The Houses of Parliament",and the "So Called" Green Taxes,are just a cover for getting more money to cover all that Wasted by Brown and Co.**M**.

Governments will always make money out of situations via taxes..........but whatever you believe about Global warming the oil is running out fast and we all need to conserve our resources better and learn to live "greener"lives I think.

Amanda

Whether it is 'nonsense' or not...

I suspect any of you who live in areas which will inevitably flood because of it would rather err on the side of caution? (I do at the moment)


If indeed making an effort to cut down on greenhouse gases, pollution and destruction of habitats does NOT stop global warming in the future , then at least it will make the environment we live in now a little pleasanter! :)

Rose xx

There was a programme on TV some months ago (unfortunately I didn't watch it but OH did) giving scientific reasons as to why this "global warming" is nonsense and is just being used as a way of increasing taxation.

Mary

Colin you've started something people demanding the truth and not some guess work
Terry

Al Gore is another one who jumped on the greeny bandwagon, very little factual data in his report.

well all i can say is ....it isnt warmer is it !!!x

The goverment is going to tax carbon emmissions, tax houses that they SAY are not eco friendly, add surchardes here and there, and thus increase their income.
We do need to clean up our act but we also need to be critical of badly thought out Greeny solutions like bio fuel etc. or airmiles for food as though heating a green house for six months in a year wont give the same carbon emmissions
Go to it Colin we are fed up with half truths and poor science being presented as the truth
Al Gores film is not allowed to be used in schools because it contains so little FACTUAL CONTENT
Terry

Hi Colin...Am afraid I disagree with you there...after watching Al Gore's *Inconvenient Truth* video...have just googled it but can only find the trailer



Think if you are interested in Global Issues....this is a must to see!

Regs Kim


http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw_feature.asp?id=11