General Chat

jax, have to agree with everything said here, especially with what daff says. I am sure this is discriminatory and if the school governors are agreeing with the ehad I would go to the education authority, the Welsh Assembly and the newspapers and even the local TV. but I would also let them do the sponsored walk because to not allow them to do so will make them feel even more excluded. Children enjoy things like that. and Daffs banner is a good idea, but held by a parent not a child. assuming parents will be there. Something like "Our children, raising money to send oter children on day trips"
How dare they exclude them, how disgusting.

ann
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Sorry everyone I am reading your replies but cant keep up with you all lol

Yes the sponsored walk is to be held during school time and will be taking them away from lessons.

We are very angry about all this and the effect its having on the children and yes we are also contacting the local town councellor and mp about this.

There are also many other concerns as to why there are 14 children in one year with special needs in such a small area, in which the first 2 proper years of those childrens learning there were many changes in the school (new head, amalgamation) and it seems that children who were doing well in year 1 now have learning problems. But that is a long story.

Boo is nagging me to make flap jacks so will have to shoot for a while.

Thankyou all so much your opinions have given me some very valid point to make to the school and at the meeting.


Jax xx

How Dare the school exclude some children at my g/daughters school Everyone goes and that includes the special kiddies/ Oh! Like Daff I'm fuming! get on to the papers and the education authority
Just a thought could your mothers take them away on a picnic one Saturday......or dare I say it even a school day say the day the others are going on a trip

Norah x

NO WAY you are right .........stand your ground

Look I need to say this which you then need to check ......

I was told these children NEED these trips to boost confidence .....and I was then lead to believe that its a POLICY to get these children on school trips and I,ve even had TWO trips paid for as part of my sons special needs IEP .......

Sorry read some more of this ,......

This is DISCRIMINATION ......

Lol Jax... you're excused class to make flapjacks, Boo will love it.

Now I am a bit of a cynic in some areas... I would want to be asking the head...
Are any of the teaching staff/support workers etc removed from Boo's class on school trip days to provide support for those going on the trip?

This was a regular cop out for Heads so that they could maintain adult:child ratios on outside field trips for the mainstream youngsters. This would of course mean that Boo's class was staffed at minimum levels on those trip days.
I have seen that happen so many times... and have even been personally withdrawn from my named child to provide general support on an outing, before it clicked what was happening.

That's for starters.. I am off for some brain food!!

Oh... and just a note about funding..... the school will have massive cash bonuses and extra funding for each special needs child, and some of that funding is allowed to be diverted to the rest of the school.... cynic that I am, I wonder whether some of the children who were once doing well, but fell behind due to the changes.... well, maybe the massive cash injection was more of a carrot for the powers-that-be than the welfare and education of the children who were most affected by the disruption.

I have to say, that I smell a rat in this......

Love

Daff.... and Boo... bring me a flap jack when you come to the Fair, please, would you???? xxxxxxx

Jax, having two SEN kids with dyslexia I'd be fuming!!!!

Caz xx

Thanks Everyone

The learning difficulties in this class range from children who have problems from birth due to being very premature, to behavioural problems (ADHD) and in minor cases like Boo's concentration problems.

They are all lovely kids who just need a bit more patience and encouragement and I feel leaving them out of activities such as the school trips is not the way to go abuot encouraging them and helping them gain their confidence in learning.

Thanks all again so much, I will keep you all updated.

Love Jax xx

Jax/Stacey

that is so not far discrimination is what it is.
Children learn more when they are doing fun things like trips and dont even realise they are learning so why do they exclude the ones that would benefit most.

Go right to the top take no prisoners Boo and her friends are worth it.

d xx

I can't believe this..............how dare they discriminate!!!!

What really made me spit pips was when I read they were insisting that all the sn children took part in a fundraiser so others could go off on trips. It's bad enough them being discriminated against but then to be expected to raise money as well........grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Sorry can't say any more.....if I did it may get this thread removed and that isn't fair.

Its disgusting, Boo and friends need to be included like other children, outside activity is for all , everyone said what i think, with Daff on this sounds like a few rats in there stop helping stand your ground,
my son as objected to, grandson is six- school trip
cost 7 pounds, under privilege children free, only 3 in class can pay,my son one of them there is around 28/30 children in class hardly fare i say not against genuine cases most of there parents in pub most nights my son just keeps afloat

Hi
Please could you post this on the uk governors forum
www.ukgovernors.org.uk

their are inclusion issues here, and i'm not uptodate with SEN inclusion policy,
please post on the above board where you will get advice about where your school stands legally in this mattter

Joan
The school can not make you pay for any trip, it must be made clear that they are asking for a donation towards the trip, but the trip may not go ahead if enough children do not pay.

Hi gossip girl... thank you for that.... I think Jax an Boo are baking at the moment, but I will keep that link as well... I am just so mad over this!!

Love

Daff xxx

I am for my sins a school governor,
The site is really good - if I have a problem with my school issues - then I post on there, and have always received great advice

I would obtain the special needs policy from your school, you are intitled to see it. Phone the local education authority first thein monday morning then take it from there.

Good luck

Star

lol Gossip Girl..... you (the universal you here, lol) generally do a wonderful and often thankless job... I was once the fundraiser on the schoolboard, as the schools token rep, lol.... I worked with special needs youngsters. Our poor Governer went through the mill many a time..... think back to The Children Act and the early days, a residential MLD school where staff had been allowed to hit youngsters, just for starters.... they gave the poor man hell before they accepted the changes... or moved on!

Love

Daff xxx

Unfortunately i'm not upto date with SEN policy

hopefully Jax will read this later and post on the uk governors board, the parents need to be able to go into school with the correct ammunition

This discrimination just shouldn't be allowed to happen.

How dare the Head exclude some children from the school trip. Shouldn't be called a School trip if not all the children are allowed to join in.

All children should be able to learn a lot from these trips if properly organised. Especially in Social and Emotional parts of development.

What sort of message is the Head sending to the rest of the School.
i.e. "Let's not mix with the Special Needs children if we can help it"

Disgusting! is the mildest thought that comes to mind.

Seperating children from their friends is so wrong. Also a missed educational opportunity for all of the children in the school.

I was under the impression that the idea of having children with special needs children in a main stream school was INCLUSION. After all that is the way things should be in the outside world.

This head seems to have other ideas, and if so is he/she the right person to have as a headteacher.

Please do protest about this to MP, Education Board etc.
This is unacceptable behaviour.
by the "powers that be" inside the school.
Things like this should be included in the OFSTED report.

I agree with everyone who said that School Day trips are (or certainly should be) educational opportunities.
Things that are observed on the trip can be carried back to the class room for further learning.

I hope that you get this sorted out to your own satisfaction.
And that this head learns something from this experience.

Tess

*mutters*

I'd like to send this Head on an educational trip all their own.... propelled from the toe of my boot.



Steel capped toe.

Love

Daff xxxxx