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lmao Hayley, sometimes it just gets that way doesn't it?

If it fits with what you know from other sources then I would go with it.

This may be the 1841 James & Mary

1861 England Census
about James Wilde
Name: James Wilde
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Haughton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne and Audenshaw
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
James Wilde 62
Mary Wilde 60
Sarah Wilde 25


See Sarah's found you a dressmaker pmsl

Liz you Sue and Claire must be getting to know this better that me..

I can place James abt 1828 in the 1841 census with his Grandparents....now his father was also James and I can place him as parents with the grandparents but where the bloody ell is he hiding in the 1941 census coz it isnt with his son or parents...there is a Mary with them but called Bamber and is either James mother or aunt as she is deffo grandparents daughter......

is this him 1871...tis North Street too

1871 England Census
about James Wilde
Name:James Wilde
Age:70
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1801
Relation:Uncle
Gender:Male
Where born:Denton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Ashton Under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephan
Town:Ashton Under Lyne
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:



Registration district:Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district:Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel:4
Neighbors:View others on page
Household schedule number:209
Household Members:NameAge
Betty Garside49
Eli Garside12
Josiah Garside13
Maria Garside16
James Wilde70 occ Weavr
Samuel Wilde54 ...Occ Hebalist

That is the correct parish with James abt 1828.....

lmao, well I was following it last time but am pretty lost now. I'm blaming it on my bonds.... still no James Bond btw lol

Hayley, I thought we had sorted the Bamber thing out but can't remember what we agreed now lol.

We decided Mary Bamber was either widowed or a trollop.....as the youngest son John wilde Bamber...

by 1851 James abt 1828 was married to his first wife and I have Mary Bamber Ann Wilde and John wilde bamber in the 1851 census.....

trouble is...there is also this one n 1871

1871 England Census
about James Wilde
Name:James Wilde
Age:71
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1800
Relation:Father
Gender:Male
Where born:Droylsden, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Droylsden
Ecclesiastical parish:St Mary
Town:Little Droylsden
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England

Street address:

Occupation: Formerly Card room hand

Condition as to marriage:



Registration district:Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district:Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel:10
Neighbors:View others on page
Household schedule number:181
Household Members:NameAge
Amos Selley62
Hannah Selley56
James Turner77
Alice Wilde13
Emma Wilde27
James Wilde71
Joseph Wilde33
James Wright25


He is actually Father to Joseph Wilde...the others are in another household

Susan another dressmaker single age 20 with a 6yr daughter...in my display FT...** decides no way can they be related.....**

Droylseden is sort of the next Town....Audenshaw Hooley Hill is more like them....or Denton ....good job I know the area isnt it...lol

Well it said she was single not widowed so I think she was a trollop lol.

Gawd, it's like they conspired to make your life difficult

I suspect that Mary Bamber is James' sister but by a different father, would that fit?

I thought the S was in the where born column SS.....didnt have married or single in the 1841????

There is another family there.....William age 40.....loads of children living with him, one age 25 and 2 age 6...she may be from that one

lol Hayley it's good to know your areas.

Why is it that these parish registers are so hard to read except for where it declares "a bastard" lol.

Not really as there would be a 23 age gap.....she is either james 1826/28 mother or Aunt as he names James Wilde (poss 1803 ) on both his marraige certs.....but he could of made it up.......

No Susan the single thing that I was referring to was from a later census from the other night.

Yeh but if his mother had been married before? Do we know what his mother's maiden name was? Had she married before?

If she was James 1828s mum wouldn't he be called Bamber too? More likely aunt or sister.

Or his father's concubine ROFL

dunno ......as the year he was born and the fact he lives in 1841 with grandparents called Wilde I assumed they was his fathers parents....but I have James wilde and Mary bap things with same parents the grandparents..