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Name James O'Donnell
Death Age 40
Birth Date abt 1904
Registration Date 1944
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Birmingham
Inferred County Warwickshire
Volume 6d
Page 27

One of the children who died

KEATING
CHARLES
2
ALEXANDER
M
1902
644 / 9 / 1503
Kelvin

Just for the record............

In 1911, Charles, 40, Margaret, 3, and Robert,1, Keating were lodgers in the home of Walter Alexander, 67, his wife, Margaret, 55, sons Walter, 23, & Robert, 22, and daughter Sarah, 16

The ages of the Alexander 'parents' match quite closely those of 1901 census on FMP, but the forenames clearly DON'T. They say they have been married for 37 years, have had 9 children, of whom 6 are living

I think 1901 was probably very badly-written - in fact, FMP couldn't decipher the surname at all.......................

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
54, Canal Street, Glasgow, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland

William ? Head Married Male 59 1842 ? Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Catherine ? Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Peter ? Son - Male 16 1885 ? Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Walter ? Son - Male 13 1888 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert ? Son - Male 11 1890 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Sarah ? Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Keating Relative Married Male 31 1870 House painter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Keating Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Louisa Keating Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Keating Son - Male 0 1901 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland


For INFO

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Hartfield Street, Glasgow, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Walter Alexander Head Married Male 48 1843 Iron moulder Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret Alexander Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jessie Alexander Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Alexander Daughter - Female 14 1877 Paper bag maker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret Alexander Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Peter Alexander Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Walter Alexander Son - Male 4 1887 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert Alexander Son - Male 1 1890 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

I assume this is the last sighting you have of your grandad, living with Jean.

Name James Isaacs O'donnell
Gender Male
Residence Date 1935-1936
Residence Street Address 85 Cole Bank Road
Residence Ward Sparkhill
Residence Place Warwickshire, England
Parliamentary Division Moseley

Yes AG I did the same. Wonder if young Jeanie was with her mother that night but can't find them at all.

Hi. Sorry yes she got married in Canada after meeting my dodgy grandad on the ship going there. Dodgy as in a bigamist and who was going to go to jail in Ireland so he fled the country. He was a salesman for Singer Sewing Machine company. Ive had to look through paperwork as i couldnt remember what certs i do and dont have. I cant find her marriage cert now. The mother Mary is missing in 1911 too so maybe they had gone visiting somewhere on census night. I have the passenger list from 1928 although its a bad copy and hardly readable.
I also couldnt find my grandad for years having been told his name was James O'Donnell. Once i found out he was actually Isaac Sylvester and not James it got easier, although he did a disappearing act around 1936 and wasnt seen again!
Thanks for all your help

There are three Mary Keatings in 1911, of the right age +/- 1.

Two of them have middle initials, so I'm discounting them. One in Midlothian, one in Angus.

There's one in Calderhead, Lanarkshire, with no middle initial.
However, she's with children (James 11, Michael 2, Mary 9, Richard 0, John 6) whose mmn is Brannen.

So no sign of the right Mary, unless she's badly mistranscribed.
I searched for age 26-37, and only those three came up.

KEATING
CHARLES
1911
M
40
644/9 30/ 12
Milton
Lanark

with Robert 1 and Margaret 3.


KEATING
CHARLES
1921
M
50
644/9 33/ 12
Milton
Lanark

with Mary 44, Margaret 13, Robert 11, Mary 9, Walter 5.


Have you found Mary in 1911?

Thanks alviegal.......a dead end there then ;-) ;-)

This is Jean's marriage ErikaH. He was a sailor and she was a maid.

Marriage

11 Mar 1929 • Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Isaac Sylvester O'Donnell

1904–

She emigrated with her sister Margaret in 1928.

She wasn't 'known' as Jeanie - that was her given name when her birth was registered

Could you answer my query about when and where she married..............I presume she did, as you refer to her as your grandmother

If you 'HAVE' the info, why did you say Louisa was 'missing' from 1921 census?????

Why didn’t you look for in her married name???????

:-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

Yes i have that info. Her birth cert, Louisas marriage cert. I just paid for that 'Jane' one. Definately Jane and not Jean. She was known as Jeanie too. It does seem strange that she is missing on 2 census. She did exist as i met her as a kid ??

Nice one, alviegal.

I've deleted my 'wrong un'

This is your grandmother's birth.......AS PER YOUR OTHER THREAD

Note the FORENAME

KEATING
JEANIE
ALEXANDER
F
1905
644 / 8 / 954
Milton***************************NOT Glasgow

MCCABE
LOUISA
1921
F
23
644/11 66/ 21
Anderston
Lanark

with Catherine 1, Patrick McCabe 27 and Thomas McCabe 28.

Think Louisa married.

KEATING
LOUISA
MCCABE
PATRICK
1919
644 / 3 / 1015
Calton (Glasgow)



MCCABE
LOUISA
72
F
1971
644 / 1 / 276
Glasgow (South)


KEATING
LOUISA
72
F
1971
644 / 1 / 276
Glasgow (South)

Where and when did your grandparents marry?

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1374868

For a few more bits of factual info.................
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
54, Canal Street, Glasgow, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Keating Relative Married Male 31 1870 House painter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Keating Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Louisa Keating Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Charles Keating Son - Male 0 1901 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Louisa could well have been married by 1921........have you checked?