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Annette

Annette Report 4 May 2026 15:25

She was born in 1895 was wondering what happened to her baby was born in March 1911 at 58 cotwood road Westcliff on sea essex she was 16

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 15:29

What research have you carried out?

What was the child's name? (Vital info)

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 May 2026 15:39

1911 Census For England & Wales
58 Cotswold Road Westcliff Southend-On-Sea, Prittlewell, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick George Coles Head Married Male 39 1872 Leather merchant St Lukes E C
Maria Louisa Coles Wife Married Female 39 1872 - St Lukes E C
Frederick Thomas Coles Son Single Male 15 1896 Clerk Stoke Newington N
Violet Coles Daughter Single Female 12 1899 School Highbury
Maria Bridle Nurse Widow Female 49 1862 Monthly nurse Aberdeen Scotland
Elsie Hedge Servant Single Female 16 1895 Domestic servant Hanwell Middlesex
Baby Hedge Son - Male 0 1911 - 58 Cotwood Rd Westcliff


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 15:50

Looking at the image, no surname is recorded for the infant. It merely says Baby son......under 1 month old.

Ancestry have transcribed him as Coles..............assuming relationship to be to head of household, which was the correct way to fill out the census.

What else do you know about the woman? Her birth would more probably have been in 1894.............unless, of course, you have her birth cert and know differently.

Obviously, the place of the boy's birth was COTSWOLD Road.
NOT registered in the name Hedge

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 16:03

COLES, VIOLET GREENING
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 423

COLES, FREDERICK THOMAS GREENING
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 443

COLES, GEOFFREY GREENING *****************************
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 692


************************The child was NOT Elsie's***********************

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 16:06

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Coles Frederick George Islington 1b 391
Greening Maria Louisa Islington 1b 391

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 16:20

1921 Census Of England & Wales
54, Elderton Road, Westcliff-On-Sea, Southend on Sea, Essex, England
Frederick George Coles Head Male 1871 49 London, England Wholesale & Retail Leather & Grindery Merchant Employer
Maria Louisa Coles Wife Female 1871 49 London, England Home Duties -
Frederick Thomas Coles Son Male 1895 25 London, England Assistant In Fathers Business F G Coles, W & R Leather & Grindery Merchant
Violet Coles Daughter Female 1898 22 London, England Typist I & R Morley, Wholesale Drapers, Out Of Work
Geoffrey Coles Son Male 1911 10 Westcliff on Sea, Essex, England - -
Kathleen Lydia Coles Daughter Female 1915 5 Upminster, Essex, England -

COLES, KATHLEEN LYDIA GREENING
GRO Reference: 1915 S Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 1067

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2026 16:30

Deaths Jun 1977 (>99%)
COLES GEOFFREY 18MR1911 POPLAR/B GRN 14 1235


Deaths Jun 1932 (>99%)
Coles Frederick G 60 Epsom 2a 36

Deaths Dec 1961 (>99%)
COLES Maria L 90 Rochford 4a 760

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2026 20:39

I have submitted a correction for 1911 to FMP

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2026 21:10



Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%)

Coles Kathleen L Woods Surrey Mid.E. 2a 429
Woods Joseph F Coles Surrey Mid.E. 2a 429

Name Kathleen Lydia Woods
Death Age 71
Birth Date 20 Jul 1915
Registration Date May 1987
Registration District Kingston Upon Thames
Inferred County Greater London
Volume 13
Page 1775

1939 Register
30 Chase Road, Epsom, Epsom and Ewell M.B., Surrey, England
Frank Woods 19 May 1894 Male Photographer Married 143 1
Sarah M Woods 10 May 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 143 2
Adrian S T Leach 12 Sep 1910 Male Teacher Single 143 3
Joseph F Woods 28 Dec 1915 Male Photographer Married 143 4
Lydia K (Kathleen L) Woods 20 Jul 1915 Female Bookkeeper Married 143 5

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 May 2026 23:40

The "baby son" seems to have been only an afterthought for Frederick when he filled in the 1911 census form.

Normally, all family members are listed before any servants or others.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 May 2026 09:14

As the infant was only 13 days old, it may be that most of the form had been completed before its birth……………………

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 6 May 2026 10:22

In that case they were lucky they got the boy that they were hoping for ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2026 19:10

Following Elsie just for my own interest:

Assuming birthplace of Hanwell is correct in 1911

HEDGE, MABEL ELSIE mmn LANE
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 127


Mable Elsie Hedge
in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937
Name Mable Elsie Hedge
Gender Female
Marriage Age 21
Birth Date abt 1894
Marriage Date 18 Sep 1915
Marriage Place Hockley, St Peter and St Paul, Essex, England
Father David Hedge
Spouse Frederick Horace Smith (a nurseryman, per army record)

Parents' marriage::

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
HEDGE David Godstone 2a 305
Lane Agnes Godstone 2a 305

Her father, and her brother David Wilfred (who emigrated to the USA), were also nurserymen.

In 1921 Mabel Elsie is in Hockley, Middlesex with her husband, 2 children, and a visitor.

1939: she's in Rochford, Essex, with her husband, one son, and 4 closed records.

Died in Rochford RD on 18/02/1974.

Her husband survived WW1 , with the Royal Garrison Artillery. He died in 1965.

Their son Francis Ronald was killed in France in 1944, an Air Gunner with RAF Bomber Command.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 May 2026 11:59


Name Joan Baldock....KNOWN AS Joan Sleet (Age 23) (Address: 93, Nonsuch Walk, Cheam. Unoccupied on 1939 Register)
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth Year abt 1916
Marriage Date 24 Sep 1939
Marriage Place Cheam, St Dunstan, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears Cheam
Father Charles Baldock.....deceased - possibly invented
Spouse Geoffrey Coles..Address 10 West Drive, Cheam (his mother's address on 1939 Register) He was there in 1936, as per ER.
Father Frederick George Coles
Witnesses F T Coles, J F Woods

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Baldock Joan Coles Surrey Mid.E. 2a 864
Coles Geoffrey Sleet Surrey Mid.E. 2a 864
Sleet Joan Coles Surrey Mid.E. 2a 864

3 Coles/Baldock children....births on freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 May 2026 12:21


One of the 3 mentioned above

Name David John Coles
Death Age 51
Birth Date 8 Jan 1942
Registration Date Jun 1993
Registration District Thurrock
Inferred County Essex
Register Number A22A
District and Subdistrict 4771A
Entry Number 197
Married in 1963 and fathered 3 children...................find info yourself on freebmd


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2026 14:21

First name(s) Geoffrey
Archive The National Archives
Last name Coles
Series BT348
Birth year 1911
Piece number 1
Birth date 18 Mar 1911
Date range 1921-1941
Birth place -
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Birth county/country -
Category Education & work
Event year 1928
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Discharge number R 51900
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Card type CR2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 May 2026 20:57

Well, ‘marked as answered’with not a word of thanks :-| :-| :-|
And no acknowledgement of her incorrect assumption about the child’s parentage. NOTED

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 May 2026 14:14

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1383969

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1384325

ALL the info was provided to this poster in 2020.............................

Annette

Annette Report 13 May 2026 17:06

Thank you so much for your information I do appreciate it it from annette riley xx <3 <3 <3 <3 :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)