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Terence
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29 Apr 2026 06:22 |
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I have a William Meads marriage to Elizabeth Corby on11th April1831 in Marlow, Buckinghamshire. Producing 3 children. Both parents seem to have been born in 1811. No sign of William in subsequent Census', but I have a record of him being convicted for robbery with violence to Joseph Folly in January 1836 and transported to Australia. I cannot find his origins as I have many ancestors from Marlow. Terence Meads. South Australia.
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nameslessone
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29 Apr 2026 08:34 |
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You don’t know Williams origins but you do know his parents. Otherwise you wouldn’t know when they were born :-S
With so many Bucks relatives you should be a member of Bucksfhs. Even as a non member they will do lookups for you. Probably for a small fee.
added: Been thinking the post didn't actually make sense. When you state parents - you actually mean William & his iwfe. NOT Williams parents :-(
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 08:57 |
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Where have you actually looked?
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ArgyllGran
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29 Apr 2026 10:06 |
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Posting for our reference:
William Meads in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 Name William Meads Gender Male Marriage Date 11 Apr 1831 Marriage Place Great Marlow, Buckingham, England Spouse Elizabeth Corby FHL Film Number 1999445 Reference ID p 126
As the marriage record gives no info about his parents, and as he does not appear in any censuses, it's highly unlikely you'll ever find out about his origins.
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nameslessone
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29 Apr 2026 10:14 |
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Bucksfhs has a huge database and as they are the experts on Bucks Terence should really be contacting them. They will also have access to records that may not yet be on line. Many records that are on line have been licensed or sold by the FHS. I suspect this is the original source of the record shown by AG. Although the Mormons do go out and copy some records and documents themselves.
Marlow is just across the Thames from Berkshire so Terence should also take a look at that county.
Does William not appear in Australian census? He wouldn’t appear on English ones if he was transported before 1841.
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alviegal
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29 Apr 2026 13:27 |
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The newspapers I have seen have reports of the robbery.
27 Feb 1836 Berkshire Chronicle has William Meads 25 GUILTY - recommended to mercy on account of previous good character.
29 Feb 1836 Morning Post, London has William Meads 25 GUILTY - death recorded.
Are you certain he was transported?
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alviegal
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29 Apr 2026 13:40 |
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I assume this is Elizabeth and children.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Peter Street, Marlow, Great, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England Household members (4 people) First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Elizabeth Meads Female 25 1816 Buckinghamshire, England Ann Meads Female 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England Sarah Meads Female 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England William Meads Male 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 13:49 |
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The man convicted of robbery in 1836 was in Berkshire, not Bucks.
The man transported for life stole 14 shoes from a shop in Great Marlow in 1838. The shoes were found in the defendant’s “lodgings”
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alviegal
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29 Apr 2026 13:51 |
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There was a William Meads transported in 1838 for breaking open a shop in Great Marlow and stealing 14 pairs of shoes. John Beck was the owner.
Name: William Meads Gender: Male Born: 31st Dec 1807 Death: Unknown Age at death: Unknown Occupation: Ropemaker Crime Crime: Burglary (house breaking) Convicted at: Bucks. Quarter Session Sentence term: 99 years Voyage Departed: 25th Jun 1838 Ship: Coromandel Arrival: 26th Oct 1838 Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land
https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/meads/william/47611
Name William Meads Vessel Coromandel Convicted Date 2 Jan 1838 Voyage Date 25 Jun 1838 Colony Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land) Place of Conviction Buckinghamshire, England
Name William Meads Vessel Coromandel Province Tasmania Title Pardons Year(s) 1849-1851 Place of Conviction Bucks
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ArgyllGran
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29 Apr 2026 14:09 |
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In 1846 he's listed as "3rd class pass", meaning reduced privileges, and a low chance of pardon.
William Meads in the New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849 Name William Meads Arrival Date 1838 Vessel Coromandel Province Tasmania Title Ledger Returns A - R Year(s) 1846 Place of Conviction Bucks
However, the image of the 1849-1851 "Pardons" record posted by Alviegal says:
"Has completed 10 yrs and 9 months under a life sentence with good conduct."
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 14:23 |
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First name(s) William Country England Last name Meads Father's first name(s) William Sex Male Father's last name Meads Baptism year 1836 Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Baptism date 05 May 1836 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Great Marlow, Buckingham, England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Great Marlow Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Buckinghamshire
First name(s) Sarah Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Last name Meads Archive Buckinghamshire Archives Baptism year 1834 Archive reference D/A/T/130 Baptism date 09 Feb 1834 Document type Bishop's transcripts Residence Great Marlow Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials Place Great Marlow Register year range 1826-1839 Denomination Anglican Page 3 County Buckinghamshire Record set Buckinghamshire Baptism Index Country England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) William Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's last name Meads Collections from England, Great Britain Father's occupation Labourer*****************
First name(s) Hannah Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Last name Meads Archive Buckinghamshire Archives Baptism year 1831 Archive reference D/A/T/130 Baptism date 04 Sep 1831 Document type Bishop's transcripts Residence Great Marlow Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials Place Great Marlow Register year range 1826-1839 Denomination Anglican Page 263 County Buckinghamshire Record set Buckinghamshire Baptism Index Country England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) William Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's last name Meads Collections from England, Great Britain Father's occupation Labourer***************
Note that the father was a Labourer - the transportee was a Ropemaker
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 14:29 |
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The assault on Folly in 1836 was in Bisham. Newspaper report clearly says "Death recorded" as per alviegal's post
So NOT the man who was transported....................
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alviegal
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29 Apr 2026 14:51 |
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I'm just going to work but if someone, Erika, AG, could take a look at this. I can definitely read 3 children and wife Elizabeth. Think some details may have been mixed with someone else but can't check just now.
Meads, William Record Type: Convicts Departure date: 12 Jun 1838 Departure port: Sheerness Ship: Coromandel (2) Place of origin: Harrow on the Hill, Middlesex Origin location: Latitude and Longitude Voyage number: 153 Index number: 48917 Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:1418338 Appropriation List: CSO5/1/148 Page 3653
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=meads
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ArgyllGran
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29 Apr 2026 14:55 |
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Elizabeth is still describing herself as "married" in 1851:
Elizabeth Mead in the 1851 England Census Name Elizabeth Mead Age 41 Estimated Birth Year abt 1810 Relation Head Gender Female Where born Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish Great Marlow County/Island Buckinghamshire Country England Registration District Wycombe Sub-registration district High Wycombe ED, institution, or vessel 1a Neighbors Household schedule number 137 Piece 1719 Folio 372 Page number 33 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Elizabeth Mead 41 Head W Mead 14 Son
But "widowed" in 1861:
Elizabeth Mead in the 1861 England Census Name Elizabeth Mead Gender Female Age 54 Relation Mother-in-law Estimated Birth Year 1807 Where born Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish Islington Ecclesiastical parish All Saints County/Island Middlesex Country England Registration District Islington Sub-registration district Islington West ED, institution, or vessel 50 Neighbors Household schedule number 118 Piece 133 Folio 110 Page number 31 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Chas Thos Sowden 29 Head Hannah Sowden 29 Wife Wm Charles Sowden 2 Son Sarah Ann Sowden 1 Daughter Elizabeth Mead 54 Mother-in-law John Amos 23 Lodger
At the daughter Ann/Hannah's marriage in 1857, William is described as a Rope spinner. That fits with the man transported in 1838.
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 15:03 |
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Agree that the convict record refers to "3 childs, wife Elizabeth".
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 15:07 |
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As mentioned earlier
https://bucksfhs.org.uk/category/resources/request-a-search
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ArgyllGran
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29 Apr 2026 15:17 |
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At the son William's marriage to Sarah Wilson in 1871, his father is described as a labourer, deceased - but as William was so young when his father was transported he may not have known the occupation. Labourer is a useful general term.
It would be easier to say his father was dead, rather than to say he didn't know.
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ErikaH
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29 Apr 2026 15:26 |
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The chap from Middlesex...............purely for elimination
Name William Meads Arrival Date 1836********** Vessel Lady Nugent Province Tasmania Title Ledger Returns A - R Year(s) 1846 Place of Conviction Middlesex
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nameslessone
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29 Apr 2026 15:41 |
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Apropos my earlier comment about looking at Berkshire - the current county border goes through the middle of the bridge.
Bridges have been there for many many centuries.
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nameslessone
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29 Apr 2026 16:10 |
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Terence, are you a member of Mead-family.net. ?
They claim to be a one name study.
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