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Who are James Cawte's parents please ?

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greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Feb 2026 22:41

Still no closer, thanks for your efforts. Some things are not meant to be solved it seems.

Apologies for delayed reply - been out all day.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2026 12:51

The man who died in 1860 was 35 - at least as far as the informant believed:

CAWTE, STEPHEN 35
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 14

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Feb 2026 12:27


Name Stephen Cawte
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place Southam, Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Sep 1860
Inferred Death Place Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Volume 6d
Page 14

image Vol is 2c Page 14which then was for Southampton /Hampshire ,,,not Warwichshire.no age given.


Name Stephen Cawte
Age 75
Estimated Birth Year abt 1792
[abt 1792]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place Winchester, Hampshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Dec 1867
Inferred Death Place Hampshire, United Kingdom
Volume 2c
Page 61.


0nly 2 registered deaths of
Stephen Cawte,,1837 to 1915.

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Feb 2026 11:06

Thanks AG for the late night research - it looks like Stephen was not the best behaved!

I think this is probably as far as we can go, thanks to those who replied. If anyone does find anything else, I'll be keeping an eye on the thread.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Feb 2026 23:16

Cawte was a common name in the area, so this is not necessarily the same man - but . . . .

THE HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PAPER.—SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 1850
... Misbehaviour in Union Poor-house: Wm. Wilder, Charles Osman, and Wm. White. 21 days; Stephen Cawte, John Westbrook, and William Tarrant. 11 days;
Published: Saturday 09 November 1850
Newspaper: Hampshire Chronicle
County: Hampshire, England



PORTSMOUTH POLICE
... . . . George Cawle and Stephen Cawte, charged with felony, were also remanded till Monday. . . . . ...
Published: Saturday 03 September 1853
Newspaper: Hampshire Telegraph
County: Hampshire, England


. . . . . George and Stephen Cawte were remanded for days on a charge of breaking into an outhouse Buckland, and stealing a coat and other articles. ...
Published: Saturday 10 September 1853
Newspaper: Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette
County: Hampshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Feb 2026 22:59

Re the 1851 census for James Cawte , born Wymering, which ErikaH posted at 15:37 today - which included Stephen, age 21:


PROVINCIAL NEWS.. —

Committed to the Bridewell during the week. Mary Tutt, for misbehaviour in the Romsey Poor House, six weeks; Michael Butler, as a rogue and vagabond, one month; Barnard Moody, for vagrancy ;
>>> Stephen Cawte, for misbehaviour in the Fareham Poor House <<<<;
each three weeks. . . . . . .

Published: Saturday 05 September 1846
Newspaper: Hampshire Advertiser
County: Hampshire, England



Ancestry has transcribed the family's surname as Cawse in 1851. On the image, the name looks like Cawle, but could be Cawte.

ADDED:


Portsmouth, SATURDAY, JANUARY 15, 1848

... . . . Stephen Cawte, late an inmate of the Fareham Union Work-house, was convicted under the vagrant act, of refusing to maintain himself when offered employment, sentenced to three months imprisonment with hard labour . .
Published: Saturday 15 January 1848
Newspaper: Hampshire Telegraph
County: Hampshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Feb 2026 22:51

That would be great Jink20 if it's "my' James - born 1866 Hayes, Middx, married Ellen 24.8.1890
or
His Father James bap 1838 Northmoor, Oxon married Emma Drinkwater 18.8.1859 Hartington, Middx

The Gosport chap was probably the one registered in Alverstoke 1842 mmn McIver as per GRO. There is a marriage of a Charles Cawte to Jane McKeever Q2 1939 Portsea island - on the other side of Portsmouth Harbour to Alverstoke/Gosport

Jink20

Jink20 Report 23 Feb 2026 22:04

There is a service record for James Hawkins, if you're interested. Has exact date of marriage and 4 children listed with DOB's plus a home address

Jink20

Jink20 Report 23 Feb 2026 22:03

Found this chap...

Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939

James Cawte
Born Gosport, Hampshire
DOB 18 April 1842
Trade Blacksmith
Date of Continuous Service 25 Aug 1870 10 years
End of Service 25 Aug 1880

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Feb 2026 21:09

Thanks Alviegal. Could fit with -

a newspaper report I had found of a James Cawte who joined the Hampshire Militia in 1863. He was charged with desertion in 1866. 56 days imprisonment and a 40s fine

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Feb 2026 20:39

Possibly James before his marriage. He was a smith/farrier. In 1859 he was AWL. Deserted 1860, rejoined 1861. Discharged 1862 for medical reasons (hernia)

First name(s) James
Discharge corps 4th Battn 60th Reg Of Rifles
Last name Cawte
Discharge service number 81
Birth year 1840
Document type Discharge
Birth parish Portsmouth
Series WO 97
Birth town Portsmouth
Series description Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Hampshire
Archive reference WO 97/1570
Birth country England
Box 1570
Service number 81
Box record number 23
Private
Country England
Regiment King's Royal Rifle Corps - 60th Rifles
Archive The National Archives
Year 1857
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 14 Oct 1857
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 17
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 6
Collections from Great Britain, England



British Army Discharges, 60th Foot 1854-1880
First name(s) James
Casualty returns pension Medically unfit
Last name Cawte
Archive The National Archives
Discharge year 1862
Archive reference WO97/1570
Date 30th April 1862
Record set British Army Discharges, 60th Foot 1854-1880
Service number 81
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Rank Private
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Regiment 60th Royal Rifle Corps - Post 1881 King's Royal Rifle Corps
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Battalion 4th Battalion

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Feb 2026 20:18

Thanks for your replies - I think we're all going round in the same circles !!

Clutching at straws ErikaH is probably the nearest as Wymering is covered by the Fareham RD.

Posted by ErikaH - 1851 - James Cawte aged 11
Also in the Workhouse with surname Cawte, born Wymering
Hannah, 6, Harriet,5, Charles, 9,.........and Stephen, 21, Farm Labourer, b. Middlesex

In 1841 - Stephen 13 (or a bad 18), Hester 11, George 9, Charles 2, Hannah 7 and Harriett 4 are all in Fareham Workhouse. Must be the same 'family' but ages way out. All b Hampshire

A Hannah Cawte (? the one aged 6 1851 workhouse from the census posted) is still there in 1861 listed as a cripple and long term resident having been there for 20 years 0 months.

If Stephen was born in Middlesex, maybe that's why James and family ended up there by 1881 (more straws).

Close but not close enough to be a certainty, that line may just have to stop at James.

An 1850 newspaper report has a Stephen Cawte committed to the Hants County Prison for 14 days in 1850 for Misbehaviour in the Union Poorhouse!

I doubt he's the same Stephen who was occupying a Lot for sale in FarNham in 1853

A Charles Cawte (aged 2 in 1841 and 9 in 1851 Fareham workhouse) was baptised 7.4.1842 by Eliza Cawte from Fareham Union Wymering

Esther (Hester) Cawte married 1850 St Pancras Old Church to James Ward. Father listed as Stephen Cawte - Dead

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2026 18:59

That Stephen was an Ag Lab

James who married Sarah Bell was apparently a number of years older than the one born in 1846, unfortunately

Kay????

Kay???? Report 23 Feb 2026 16:58


Name James Cawte
Gender Male
Baptism Date 1 Nov 1846
Baptism Place Twyford, Hampshire, England
Residence Place Twyford
Parish as it Appears Twyford
Father
Stephen Cawte
Mother
Charlotte Cawte
Save

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Feb 2026 16:50

Sarah is in 74 trees on Ancestry!

Some say she died in 1891 - with no proof.
A woman named Sarah Steel Cawte did die in 1891, aged 66, in Romsey - but that's not her. Sarah Steel Cawte is on the 1891 census, in Romsey.

Others say the 1910 death mentioned above is hers. I doubt it, but you might feel it worth buying a copy of the cert to check.

CAWTE, SARAH 74
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 584

I think that's this woman:

Sarah Cawte
in the 1901 England Census
Name Sarah Cawte
Age 64
Estimated Birth Year abt 1837 [abt 1837]
Relation to Head Head
Gender Female
Birth Place Reading, Berkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish Greenwich
Search Photos
View blank form
Ecclesiastical parish St Peter
County/Island London
Country England
Registration District Greenwich
Sub-registration district Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel 01
Neighbors
Piece 536
Folio 11
Page number 14
Household schedule number 70
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Sarah Cawte 64 Head , charwoman [It says she's single, but should be widowed.]

Widow of Frederick Cawte/Court. Maiden surname Bollen/Ballen.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 23 Feb 2026 16:43

James Cants
[James Cawte]
[James Cawte]
[Cawte]
Age 4
Estimated Birth Year abt 1847
[abt 1847]
Relation Son
Father's Name Stephen Cants
Mother's Name Chartte Cants
Gender Male
Where born Twyford, Hampshire, England nr Arlesford,
Civil parish Twyford
County/Island Hampshire
Country England
Registration District Winchester
Sub-registration district Twyford
ED, institution,

?



Stephen Cants
25
Head
Chartte Cants
26
Wife
James Cants 4 Son
Emily Cants
4 Day
Daughter
Ellen Edmunds
13
Visitor
Save

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2026 15:51

Looking at 1891 image, James's birthplace is Fareham. All the 'places' have a line through them at an angle, for some unknown reason

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Feb 2026 15:50

Sarah Cawte
in the Global, Find a Grave® Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Name Sarah Cawte
Maiden Name Bell
Gender Female
Birth Date 1837
Birth Place New Alresford, City of Winchester, Hampshire, England
Spouse
James Cawte
Children
Alfred Joseph Cawte
Ellen Maria Annie Hawkins
Roger Charles Cawte

No death or burial place or date given.

**** ADDED: Actually, that "record" above is just a link from the death record of her son Alfred - so ignore!


Also, she's NOT the woman of same name and age who died in March 1910, Greenwich.
That one was married to Frederick Cawte, and was in and out of Greenwich workhouse.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2026 15:37

Clutching at straws, maybe?

First name(s) James
Parish Fareham
Last name Cawte
County Hampshire
Relationship -
Division of county South
Marital status -
Country England
Sex Male
Ecclesiastical parish or district St Peters
Age 11
Registration district Fareham
Birth year 1840
Sub district Fareham
Birth town Wymering
Enumeration district 1K
Birth town as transcribed Wymering
Archive reference HO107
Birth county Hampshire
Piece number 1661
Birth county as transcribed Hampshire
Folio 161
Birth place England
Page 5
Occupation Scholar
Schedule 5
Institution name Fareham Union Workhouse

Sorry about the jumbled info.............FMP transcription

Also in the Workhouse with surname Cawte, born Wymering
Hannah, 6, Harriet,5, Charles, 9,.........and Stephen, 21, Farm Labourer, b. Middlesex

Possibly more hindrance than help ;-) ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2026 15:26

Father's name could have been invented when James married, to save face.