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17 Dec 2016 15:40 |
Yes, she is Daughter of below, who appears to be missing HenryHarry, lol...
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- BAXTER Eliza Bury St Edmunds 4a 929 Purt Henry Bury St. E. 4a 929
(but as asked on other 'Thread', was above Cert. bought?, to see details of Father)
(oops!, apologies there AG, I see you have seen!)
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17 Dec 2016 11:08 |
Annie is William's niece:
PURT, ANNIE LAURA BAXTER GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%) BAXTER Eliza Bury St Edmunds 4a 929 Purt Henry Bury St. E. 4a 929
Edit: Already on other thread.
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17 Dec 2016 07:29 |
Yes, see other 'Thread' safc, it gets confusing...
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1362740
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Edits (a quick look on GRO Index)
PIRT, JOHN HORN GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 490
PIRT, FREDERICK HORNE GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 522
(notes 1861 has below also)
Fredrick G Port Son - Male 2 1859 Glos. Moreton Marsh
John James Port Son - Male 0 (3 mths) 1861 Staffs. Dudley
PIRT Frederick G PIRT PIRT HORNE 1858 North Cotswolds Shipston-on-Stour, Moreton-in-Marsh 9 44
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx
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17 Dec 2016 07:25 |
Marriages Dec 1914 (>99%) Besant Mabel E Smith Bury St.E. 4a 1987 Cooper Lewis Purt Bury St.E. 4a 1987 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx PURT Annie L Cooper Bury St. E. 4a 1987 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Smith Thomas H Besant Bury St.E. 4a 1987
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17 Dec 2016 07:21 |
William Pirt on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Cooper Household (4 People) Lower Farm , Brixworth R.D., Northamptonshire, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number William Pirt 15 Jul 1864 Male Old Age Pensioner Widowed 177 4 Lewis Cooper 26 Dec 1888 Male Shepherd Heavy Worker Married 177 1 Annie L Cooper 11 Jun 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 177 2 Annie M Nye (Cooper) 17 Feb 1931 Female At School Single 177 3
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16 Dec 2016 18:33 |
That's why you would need to see Baptism entry, to check...(or they might be able to do it for you)
(Suffolk RO, Bury St. Edmunds)
Address: 77 Raingate St, Bury Saint Edmunds IP33 2AR
Phone: 01284 741212
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Jackie
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16 Dec 2016 18:27 |
Thank you Chris and all. I'm even more confused. One baptism say 1863 another 1864.
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16 Dec 2016 18:03 |
Baptism date would need checking...(you can now check GRO Index for Maiden Name of Mother)
1864 PIRT, JOHN WILLIAM (HORNE) GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 453
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
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Jackie
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16 Dec 2016 17:39 |
No he was born in 1863 Bury St Edmunds
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Sylvia
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16 Dec 2016 17:37 |
So is this the correct Birth
John William Pirt Registration Year: 1864 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Bury St Edmunds Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 453
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16 Dec 2016 17:35 |
No me neither, there was a Henry Purt born to them in Bury St Edmunds who was born in 1869,but I can't find a birth for him . he was known as harry later on. He wasn't in any of the census either, with his parents.
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16 Dec 2016 17:32 |
Here's Jane in 1881:
Jane Pirts in the 1881 England Census Name: Jane Pirts Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Female Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St James County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: 2 Bakers Terrace Marital Status: Widow Registration district: Bury St Edmunds ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1844 Folio: 84 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Jane Pirts 46 James Pirts 26 Arith Pirts 18 John Pirts 15 Fredk. Pirts 10
William apparently not with them then. I'm not sure what the name transcribed as Arith is meant to be - but the age would be pretty much correct for William, and that person fits between James and John, as William did in 1871 census.
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16 Dec 2016 17:28 |
Oh he was John William, maybe dropped the John name as his father was called John.
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16 Dec 2016 17:26 |
1874 his father died
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16 Dec 2016 17:24 |
Is this his father's death ??
John Pirt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: John Pirt Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Registration Year: 1874 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 40 Registration district: Bury St Edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 320
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16 Dec 2016 17:21 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1362740
(not sure if above related, I added below)
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Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription
First name(s) John William Last name Purt Birth year 1863 Baptism year 1863 Baptism date 17 Nov 1863 Parish Bury St Edmunds, St John Place Bury St Edmunds Relationship Son Father's first name(s) John Mothers first name(s) Jane Father's occupation Ostler Notes Born 3 Aug. Late Horn. Victoria Ct
Births Dec 1864 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- PIRT John William Bury St E 4a 453
Edits (from GRO Index)
Birth 1864 PIRT, JOHN WILLIAM HORNE GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 453
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16 Dec 2016 17:09 |
I suppose I don't know it is him. Just a bit coincidental.
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16 Dec 2016 17:08 |
Parents names were John and Jane Pirt nee Horne
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16 Dec 2016 17:05 |
For helpers' reference:
William Pirt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: William Pirt Registration Year: 1863 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Bury St Edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 440
Do you know his parents' names? Is this him ???
William Pert in the 1871 England Census Name: William Pert Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's name: John Pert Mother's name: Jane Elizabeth Pert Gender: Male Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St James Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Bury St Edmunds County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Bury St Edmunds Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 214 Piece: 1728 Folio: 103 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age John Pert 38 Jane Elizabeth Pert 40 George Pert 14 James Pert 10 William Pert 5 John Pert 4 Frederick Pert 8 Months
This is the 1881 you found - how do you know it's him?
William Pearte in the 1881 England Census Name: William Pearte Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relationship to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: St John Hackney County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 17 Paragon Rd Occupation: Milk Man Registration district: Hackney Sub registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 302 Folio: 7 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Jas. Page 46 Sarah Page 40 Wm. G. Page 11 William Pearte 19
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16 Dec 2016 17:04 |
Possible death for William William Purt Birth Date: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Dec 1942 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Bury St edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 1064
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