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Charles Collingwood.

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Bruce

Bruce Report 14 Dec 2016 22:34

Many thanks everyone for your help. I take it the tree is the marriage for Frances and Charles Collingwood.

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Dec 2016 22:08

A tree on ancestry has this for Frances' marriage.

Marriage
Aug. 6, 1857 • Markham, York Co.,Canada West, Ontario, Canada

It seems that Emily Jane and Nelson were both born before this marriage date. Was Charles married previously? The 1871 census states Emily was born in England but Charles and Frances were married in Canada.


and her birth and emigration.


Birth
11 Aug 1835 • Norfolk County, England

1835

(AGE)
Immigration
1836

Immigrated to Canada with her family




and this for Charles.


Marriage
Abt. 1854 • Ontario, Canada
Margaret Unknown

(–1857)


There is nothing added to sustantiate any of this though.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Dec 2016 22:06

Looking at http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/tracing/the_records.aspx

Marriage registrations and indexes on microfilm [ca. 1801] - 1869 [Word, PDF]
Marriage registrations online, at www.ancestry.ca – [ca. 1801]-1928, 1933-1934
• Death registrations and indexes on microfilm [Word, PDF] - 1869-1942 plus deaths of Ontarians overseas, 1939-1947
• Death registrations online, at www.familysearch.org– 1869-1937 plus deaths of Ontarians overseas, 1939-1947
• Death registrations online, at www.ancestry.ca– 1869-1938, 1943-1944, plus deaths of Ontarians overseas,

MargaretM & I have been looking at Ancestry. You know your way around FS. Between us you’d have thought we could have found Charles’ marriage & death record! We know he died, but we aren’t sure that he formalised his relationship.

Its always possible that the record(s) haven’t survived the passage of time.

Edit - if you go to the first link, it appears you can download either a Word doc or pdf of the registrations where listed. It might be worth doing that even if you then have to apply for a full copy elsewhere

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2016 21:59

Marriage of son Nelson:


Nelson Collingwood

in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
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Name: Nelson Collingwood
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1858
Birth Place: East York
Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1882
Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Chas Collingwood
Mother: Frances Collingwood
Spouse: Ellen McLaren

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2016 21:56

Marriage of daughter Margaret Charlotte:

Margaret Charlotte Collingwood

in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
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Name: Margaret Charlotte Collingwood
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birth Place: Aurora, Ontario
Marriage Date: 2 Jan 1901
Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Charles Francis Collingwood
Mother: Riseborough Collingwood
Spouse: Emanuel Heisey

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2016 21:53

Marriage of daughter Mary Ann:

Mary Ann Collingwood

in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
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Name: Mary Ann Collingwood
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birth Place: Canada
Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1880
Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Charles Collingwood
Mother: Frances Collingwood
Spouse: Leonard Yakes

Bruce

Bruce Report 14 Dec 2016 21:48

My apologies, typing error, I did mean 1835.
Thanks for all the help

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2016 21:48

Harriet Collingwood

in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913
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Name: Harriet Collingwood
Date of Birth: 20 Aug 1871
Gender: Female
Birth Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father's name: Charles Collingwood
Mother's name: Frances Rosebrough


Ellen Collingwood

in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913
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Name: Ellen Collingwood
Date of Birth: 30 Dec 1876
Gender: Female
Birth Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father's name: Charles Collingwood
Mother's name: Frances Bisebrough

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Dec 2016 21:42

Your typo re Frances was initially confusing - you probable meant she was baptised in 1835, not 1935. .

The monument inscription for her reads
Death: Jun. 24, 1918 in her 83rd year.

Buried
Whitchurch-Stouffville
Ontario, Canada

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Dec 2016 21:42

Frances' baptism for info.

First name(s) Frances
Last name Riseborough
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 24 Aug 1835
Residence Norfolk, England
Place -
County Norfolk
Country England
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Riseborough
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Coe


and her parents' marriage.


First name(s) Robert
Last name Riseborough
Sex Male
Age 21
Birth year 1795
Residence Langham
Marriage year 1816
Marriage date 26 Nov 1816
Parish Langham
Diocese Norwich
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Coe
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's parish Langham
County Norfolk
Country England

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Dec 2016 21:36

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934 (Ancestry)

Name: Charles H Collingwood
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birth Place: York
Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1907
Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Charles Collingwood
Mother: Frances Riseborough
Spouse: Almeda Smith

Unfortunately it doesn't say were his parents were born.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Dec 2016 21:30

For area

1881

Charles Collingwood
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 53
Birth Year: 1828
Birthplace: England
Religion: Methodist Church of Canada
Nationality: English
Occupation: Farmer
Province: Ontario
District Number: 137
District: York North
Sub-District Number: C
Subdistrict: Whitchurch
Division: 4

Charles Collingwood 53
Frances Collingwood 45 - 1836, England
Nelson Collingwood 23 - 1858, Ontario
William Collingwood 21
Robert Collingwood 17
Charles H Collingwood 14
Frances S. Collingwood 11
Harriet M Collingwood 10
John B Collingwood 7
Ellen Collingwood 4
Margret C Collingwood 2

it's a very feint image but it appears that all of the children were born in Ontario

1871
Charles Collingwood
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1829
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Religion: Primitive Methodist
Origin: English
Province: Ontario
District: York East
District Number: 45
Division: 04
Subdistrict: York
Subdistrict Number: a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Collingwood 42
Francis Collingwood 45
Emiley Jane Collingwood 16
Nelson Collingwood 13
William R Collingwood 11
Mary Ann Collingwood 9
Robert H Collingwood 7
Charles H Collingwood 4
Francis S Collingwood 1

the above says they were all born in England!
.....

1861
Charles Collingwood
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Birth Year: 1826
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Home in 1861: Scott, Ontario, Canada West
Religion: P Methodist
Film Number: C-1058-1059
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Collingwood 35

Image shows Frances (England) age 25
Nelson (Ontario) age 3
William (Ontario) age 1

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Dec 2016 21:11

Below for reference...

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place North Willingham
Church name St Thomas
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 91
Baptism date 10 Feb 1828
Person forename Charles
Person sex M
Person abode WILLINGHAM
Father forename Joseph
Father surname COLLINGWOOD
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Jane
Mother surname COLLINGWOOD

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Bruce

Bruce Report 14 Dec 2016 20:57

Charles Collingwood was baptised at North Willingham on 10.2.1828.
I have traced a Charles Collingwood in Canada in the 1881 census, b. 1828 in England. He was married to Frances, whom I believe to be Frances Riseborough bap. on 24.8.1935. On her death certificate her parents are given as Robert and Mary Riseborough, (Nee Coe). These are correct for the baptisms on 24.8.1935.
On Family Search, Frs is show in Canada aged 16 years.
I cannot find the death certificate for Charles Collingwood on line on Family Search, although Find a Grave records show him dying in 1895.
Can anyone find a marriage record for Charles and Frances.
Can anyone find a death certificate for Charles.
Can anyone find passenger records for either of them.
I am trying to see if Charles Collingwood bap. in 1828 is the same person in Canada.
Thanking in advance