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Bruce
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14 Dec 2016 20:57 |
Charles Collingwood was baptised at North Willingham on 10.2.1828. I have traced a Charles Collingwood in Canada in the 1881 census, b. 1828 in England. He was married to Frances, whom I believe to be Frances Riseborough bap. on 24.8.1935. On her death certificate her parents are given as Robert and Mary Riseborough, (Nee Coe). These are correct for the baptisms on 24.8.1935. On Family Search, Frs is show in Canada aged 16 years. I cannot find the death certificate for Charles Collingwood on line on Family Search, although Find a Grave records show him dying in 1895. Can anyone find a marriage record for Charles and Frances. Can anyone find a death certificate for Charles. Can anyone find passenger records for either of them. I am trying to see if Charles Collingwood bap. in 1828 is the same person in Canada. Thanking in advance
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Chris Ho :)
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14 Dec 2016 21:11 |
Below for reference...
Chris :)
Baptism County Lincolnshire Place North Willingham Church name St Thomas Register type Unspecified Register entry number 91 Baptism date 10 Feb 1828 Person forename Charles Person sex M Person abode WILLINGHAM Father forename Joseph Father surname COLLINGWOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Jane Mother surname COLLINGWOOD
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
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14 Dec 2016 21:30 |
For area
1881
Charles Collingwood Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 53 Birth Year: 1828 Birthplace: England Religion: Methodist Church of Canada Nationality: English Occupation: Farmer Province: Ontario District Number: 137 District: York North Sub-District Number: C Subdistrict: Whitchurch Division: 4
Charles Collingwood 53 Frances Collingwood 45 - 1836, England Nelson Collingwood 23 - 1858, Ontario William Collingwood 21 Robert Collingwood 17 Charles H Collingwood 14 Frances S. Collingwood 11 Harriet M Collingwood 10 John B Collingwood 7 Ellen Collingwood 4 Margret C Collingwood 2
it's a very feint image but it appears that all of the children were born in Ontario
1871 Charles Collingwood Gender: Male Age: 42 Birth Year: abt 1829 Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Religion: Primitive Methodist Origin: English Province: Ontario District: York East District Number: 45 Division: 04 Subdistrict: York Subdistrict Number: a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Collingwood 42 Francis Collingwood 45 Emiley Jane Collingwood 16 Nelson Collingwood 13 William R Collingwood 11 Mary Ann Collingwood 9 Robert H Collingwood 7 Charles H Collingwood 4 Francis S Collingwood 1
the above says they were all born in England! .....
1861 Charles Collingwood Gender: Male Age: 35 Birth Year: 1826 Birthplace: England Marital Status: Married Home in 1861: Scott, Ontario, Canada West Religion: P Methodist Film Number: C-1058-1059 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Charles Collingwood 35
Image shows Frances (England) age 25 Nelson (Ontario) age 3 William (Ontario) age 1
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14 Dec 2016 21:36 |
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934 (Ancestry)
Name: Charles H Collingwood Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1868 Birth Place: York Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1907 Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Collingwood Mother: Frances Riseborough Spouse: Almeda Smith
Unfortunately it doesn't say were his parents were born.
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alviegal
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14 Dec 2016 21:42 |
Frances' baptism for info.
First name(s) Frances Last name Riseborough Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1835 Baptism date 24 Aug 1835 Residence Norfolk, England Place - County Norfolk Country England Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Riseborough Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name Coe
and her parents' marriage.
First name(s) Robert Last name Riseborough Sex Male Age 21 Birth year 1795 Residence Langham Marriage year 1816 Marriage date 26 Nov 1816 Parish Langham Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Coe Spouse's age 21 Spouse's parish Langham County Norfolk Country England
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14 Dec 2016 21:42 |
Your typo re Frances was initially confusing - you probable meant she was baptised in 1835, not 1935. .
The monument inscription for her reads Death: Jun. 24, 1918 in her 83rd year.
Buried Whitchurch-Stouffville Ontario, Canada
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MargaretM
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14 Dec 2016 21:48 |
Harriet Collingwood
in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913 Record Image View
Name: Harriet Collingwood Date of Birth: 20 Aug 1871 Gender: Female Birth Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father's name: Charles Collingwood Mother's name: Frances Rosebrough
Ellen Collingwood
in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913 Record Image View
Name: Ellen Collingwood Date of Birth: 30 Dec 1876 Gender: Female Birth Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father's name: Charles Collingwood Mother's name: Frances Bisebrough
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Bruce
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14 Dec 2016 21:48 |
My apologies, typing error, I did mean 1835. Thanks for all the help
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MargaretM
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14 Dec 2016 21:53 |
Marriage of daughter Mary Ann:
Mary Ann Collingwood
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934 Record Image View
Name: Mary Ann Collingwood Age: 18 Birth Year: abt 1862 Birth Place: Canada Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1880 Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Collingwood Mother: Frances Collingwood Spouse: Leonard Yakes
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MargaretM
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14 Dec 2016 21:56 |
Marriage of daughter Margaret Charlotte:
Margaret Charlotte Collingwood
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934 Record Image View
Name: Margaret Charlotte Collingwood Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1880 Birth Place: Aurora, Ontario Marriage Date: 2 Jan 1901 Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father: Charles Francis Collingwood Mother: Riseborough Collingwood Spouse: Emanuel Heisey
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MargaretM
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14 Dec 2016 21:59 |
Marriage of son Nelson:
Nelson Collingwood
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934 Record Image View
Name: Nelson Collingwood Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1858 Birth Place: East York Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1882 Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada Father: Chas Collingwood Mother: Frances Collingwood Spouse: Ellen McLaren
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14 Dec 2016 22:06 |
Looking at http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/tracing/the_records.aspx
Marriage registrations and indexes on microfilm [ca. 1801] - 1869 [Word, PDF] Marriage registrations online, at www.ancestry.ca – [ca. 1801]-1928, 1933-1934 • Death registrations and indexes on microfilm [Word, PDF] - 1869-1942 plus deaths of Ontarians overseas, 1939-1947 • Death registrations online, at www.familysearch.org– 1869-1937 plus deaths of Ontarians overseas, 1939-1947 • Death registrations online, at www.ancestry.ca– 1869-1938, 1943-1944, plus deaths of Ontarians overseas,
MargaretM & I have been looking at Ancestry. You know your way around FS. Between us you’d have thought we could have found Charles’ marriage & death record! We know he died, but we aren’t sure that he formalised his relationship.
Its always possible that the record(s) haven’t survived the passage of time.
Edit - if you go to the first link, it appears you can download either a Word doc or pdf of the registrations where listed. It might be worth doing that even if you then have to apply for a full copy elsewhere
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alviegal
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14 Dec 2016 22:08 |
A tree on ancestry has this for Frances' marriage.
Marriage Aug. 6, 1857 • Markham, York Co.,Canada West, Ontario, Canada
It seems that Emily Jane and Nelson were both born before this marriage date. Was Charles married previously? The 1871 census states Emily was born in England but Charles and Frances were married in Canada.
and her birth and emigration.
Birth 11 Aug 1835 • Norfolk County, England
1835
(AGE) Immigration 1836
Immigrated to Canada with her family
and this for Charles.
Marriage Abt. 1854 • Ontario, Canada Margaret Unknown
(–1857)
There is nothing added to sustantiate any of this though.
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Bruce
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14 Dec 2016 22:34 |
Many thanks everyone for your help. I take it the tree is the marriage for Frances and Charles Collingwood.
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