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Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 03:09
	i can't seem to find Betsey Ware MANLEY in the 1891 census. i have tried numerous combinations of names(she has been enumerated with quite a variety of spellings), place of birth and no date of birth, but with no luck. can anyone offer suggestions as to where I might look or how I might look or is this one of those times when she simply won't be found? thank you so much to anyone who can offer help! 1851 - aged 24, born gravesend kent, married, living 36 New Rd Gravesend, with her parents and son. 1861 - aged 34, born gravesend kent, living 38 parrock st, Milton, with her mother. betsey is a music teacher. 1871 - aged 41, born gravesend kent, widowed, living 28 bath st, Gravesend, is a lodger and is a music teacher. 1881 - aged 54, born gravesend kent, living 32 wakefield st, gravesend, is a lodger and now a needlewoman. ??? 1901 - aged 72 and living in the almshouse, old row, gravesend. 1908 - died.
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: December 2007 Posts: 4,263 Send Message	Lynski	Report	16 Dec 2011 04:05
	I have looked on FMP and I cannot find her??? I wonder if she is living with someone and the enumerator has put the wrong surname???
	Researching: Bagley, Millington, Morrey, Edwards, Sims, Weaver
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 05:13
	hi Lynski that is a good thought. i will try putting her first name in and checking all surnames - after all, she was a lodger in 2 of the censuses. thanks! vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 21,069 Send Message	jax	Report	16 Dec 2011 05:27
	She may have just been missed off?
	Researching: Nothing much
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 05:34
	hi Jax i am in denial about this!!!! vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 268 Send Message	Alison	Report	16 Dec 2011 08:17
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 268 Send Message	Hi, This i'm not sure,its a bit out on dates, but might be worth to try and trace her ............... maybe discount :-( Betsy Morrell abt 1822 Chatham, Kent, England Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish St Thomas Town: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Alison
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 09:08
	hi Alison thanks for your suggestion - I will follow her up, but it is a bit out on dates... hope your research is going well vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	16 Dec 2011 10:27
	I've tried searching simply for female born in Gravesend, who is a Lodger in Kent...........no results which match your lady
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 10:42
	Hi Flick thanks for trying. she is an elusive lady. interestingly, her grandchild, William is also proving difficult to find, byut that's a story for another day!!! vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 268 Send Message	Alison	Report	16 Dec 2011 14:25
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 268 Send Message	OMG Dont they just drive you nuts! :-S Off to bed now will check in tomorrow. Alison
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 19:02
	For reference 1851 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVERSFIELD, William Head Married M 60 1791 Auctioneer Gravesend Kent VIEW EVERSFIELD, Betsey Wife Married F 58 1793 Northfleet Kent VIEW MANLEY, Betsey Ware Daughter Married F 24 1827 Gravesend Kent VIEW MANLEY, William Eversfield Grand Son M 4 1847 London Middlesex VIEW MANN, Susan Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 General Servant Hornden Essex VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 1608 Folio: 37 Page: 8 Registration District: Gravesend & Milton Civil Parish: Gravesend Municipal Borough: Gravesend Address: 36, New Road, Gravesend County: Kent Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 19:10
	reference 1841 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVERSFIELD, William M 50 1791 Kent VIEW EVERSFIELD, Betsy F 45 1796 Kent VIEW EVERSFIELD, Betsy F 15 1826 Kent VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 458 Book/Folio: 7/37 Page: 9 Registration District: Gravesend & Milton Civil Parish: Gravesend Municipal Borough: Gravesend Address: New Road, Gravesend County: Kent Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 19:15
	Parish Records Collection - marriage License Date: 06 Dec 1844 License Year: 1844 Bride Surname: EVERSFIELD Dual Date: 06 Dec 1844 Groom Surname: MANLEY Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 19:22
	I wonder where she is in 1891 !!! Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 19:34
	Good find Helen...... Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 20:51
	hi Helen and Vera thanks for doing all this research for me while I was sleeping! i have a copy of Betsey's baptism from the St George Church. isn't it lovely to see an ancestor's name in that old handwriting. it still makes her MIA in 1891.. i did get a note from a lady at the Gravesend Cemetery who said one of my ancestors had been buried as Hanley not Manley so maybe I will try all census searches again with an H. regards vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 20:57
	Hi Vanessa Found this one going on the name Hanley although place of birth not Kent. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HANLEY, Elizabeth Inmate Widow F 62 1829 Needle Work Bethnal Green London VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 272 Folio: 105 Page: 45 Registration District: Bethnal Green Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Municipal Borough: North East Bethnal Green Address: Bethnal Green, London, North East Bethnal Green County: London Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2011 Posts: 55 Send Message	vanessa	Report	16 Dec 2011 21:05
	hmmm elizabeth = betsey (althought she was always Betsey) and the needlework is correct from the 1881 census isn't it? DOB is preety good too. thanks for this I will do some more research! vanessa
	Researching: eves manley bartholomew humphrey carter moore - mostly kent and essex
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 21:12
	1891 this Elizabeth Hanley is in an institution not sure which one. Regards Vera
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 10,007 Send Message	Vera	Report	16 Dec 2011 21:20
	Looks like it is St Matthew Bethnal Green workhouse. Regards Vera

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