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thanks kris for putting this up,its made really informative reading.like everyone i just hope theres a conclusion soon.xx

Well I would suggest that if someone has died a violent death, the smell of adrenaline and other hormones would be strong with or without the presence of fluids. Animals can smell fear..so I guess they can also determine a violent death from a natural one. I have heard of these sniffer dogs before...

http://www*searchdogsne*org/reference/Cadaver/Residual%20Scent%20In%20Buildings*pdf I have been doing my homework. These dogs certainly do exist and it appears they are very effective. Quite startling. Also G**gle Cadaver Dogs that's their official name. I won't go in to too many details on here cos some of the stuff is a bit Yuk xx

They are trained to determine ,,,decay of a corpse,,and can define if one has been there prior,but is not there now,,,and I'm not going into how ,,,,, such a horrible subject for a forum,but a read on the now forensics used in crime solving may answer questions,,,,,,

omg muffs thats amazing.well done for doing your homework.keep us informed please.xxx

They defiantely exist (sorry, I know thats already been said) because I remember them being used in Oxford. It seems someone is telling the UK media what they can and cant print!

It's amazing what they can teach animals to do. Marion

No you didn't misread that is perfectly correct.They can detect a death even if there was no blood spilled. I don't want to be too graphic so you'll pardon my reticence about not going into detail I hope..

These dogs may not be being used in the little girls search but for something totally different,unrelated to the M McCann case,,so its unwise to assume they are there for that reason,,,also applies to the activity at Mr Murats house,or that of his mother,,,,,,,,

ROL I thought the same thing..why werent they brought in before now? You would have thought they would have had the dogs at the site where they searched before looking for a body. Marion

I quite agree Robin. The dogs should have been out weeks/months ago. I understand there are very strict guidelines about the information that is allowed to be released to the press. So I would guess that's why the PJ are not using the press to their advantage - purely because they are not allowed to. As for the article. I agree. I neither believe it or disbelieve it. I'm just looking bits and pieces up to decide how I feel about it. Personally I hope to god it's wrong and that Madeleine was spotted in Belguim the other day. But it never hurts to keep an open mind on things. And yes there has been others holidaying in the apartment since - I believe.

I heard on the news today that one in ten had cancelled their holidays due to worry the same thing could happen to them. People are just going to be more carefull and keep an eye on their kid's at all times when possible. Marion

as much as it infringes on people privacey..I hope complexes like these install CCTV,in and around,,,,,,I feel for the Mark Warner enterprise,as they share no blame in this, but are suffering in many ways,

Robin , That give me great comfort to know,,,,and Im sure many others who may have doubts,!! Although in fairness to every parent.minder or guardian.all children should be safe whether in our line of eye or not..suspsion shouldnt have to be thrown at anyone helping a hurt child,but sadly it has come where even a good samaritian has come under a critical eye, Regarding all the above posts,we dont know the whys for any thing what going on over in Portugal.but hopefully things wont be dragged on for another 3 months ,and that child is found,,,,,,

G*oo*gle Cadaver Dog Forensic Evidence Dog Human Remains Detection Dog ...very interesting! www*barksar*org/html/how_sar_dogs_work.html I, however, would like to think Madeleine is still alive, how ever improbable that may seem in the light of the latest news reports..... Nanna-Moo

Robin has gone lol Marion

well Robin of Loxley was on this thread regardless of his deletion of his posts..!!

Another interesting thread Kris. I hope wherever that little girl is she is found. I don't think RM has anything to do with her disappearance.

anymore news please.xx

Well after reading this, I hope test's on the bottle prove Madaleine is alive. British police have found traces of blood in Madeleine McCann's holiday bedroom. DNA tests are being carried out to see if they came from the missing four-year-old. The dramatic discovery came after UK detectives were finally allowed to review the three-month Portugese investigation. If the blood is Madeleine's it would change the whole nature of the inquiry by introducing the possibility that she died there rather than being kidnapped. Officers from the McCanns' home force in Leicestershire used specialised equipment and their own sniffer dogs to re-examine the two-bedroom apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz. Windows were blacked out with plastic sheeting and tape to let technicians use ultraviolet light to scan for fingerprints, fibres and minute specks of blood invisible to the naked eye. They found blood on a wall in the bedroom where Madeleine had been sleeping with her younger brother and sister on May 3. Police sources quoted in a Portuguese newspaper said there were signs someone had tried to clean the blood away. Marion