General Chat

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David, That is the most ridiculous statement I have every heard. I know I'm in the minority on these Boards in my support for Tony Blair but in this instance I think he was very brave to go for the 90 days. He knew there was a very good chance it would be defeated but because he believed it to be right for the Country he went ahead. Its a pity the Tory opposition didn't consider the Country instead of voting for their own ends. Felicity, I disagree with you. It is a Governments duty to listen to the electorate and act accordingly. Jean.

Sir Ian Blair said they had proof that they had stopped several terrorist attacks. If they have proof, they don't need extra time. 28 days is long enough. Remember, It COULD BE YOU! David

If anyone has been arrested for something they haven't done, gets put in a cell for several hours before seeing a solicitor or being questioned, and finally released without charge, they will understand why so many people are against this overuse of Police authority. Especially as it can now be considered an offence to even be THINKING about an act which could be considered vaguely terrorist.

Eh? Traitors to what?

Definitely misguided.............and out of touch with public opinion. But what's new about that? Rose

I am sure that Mr Bliar has forgotten that he has been put in charge of running the Country for the benefit of the electorate. He seems to think that he has been given the Country as his own private concern and has no interest in what we the electorate want, just what he wants. I believe that most of us want to see all the illegals exported, more homes which we can afford, a better NHS, better roads, better Public Transport and an end to this belief that the masses don't matter. As for Terrorism, as has already been stated the IRA didn't create the need for a 90 day holding period, so what has changed? See my thread on time to teach politicans a lesson.

I agree with Harry, yet again!!lol

The phrase 'public opinion' seems to be thrown around every time there is a debate like this (not just on here but in the media generally). What is the 'public opinion' in this case? Is it pro the 90 days or against - I haven't seen any polls on the subject and can only conclude that 'public opinion' is as divided as it is amongst the small sample of replies on here over the last few days!

Exactly Sheila - the MPs who voted against the 90 days are representing the opinion of this member of the public:)

Davo, Re your reply to my earlier comment. Quite often we disagree with other peoples views on this channel. Most do it in a polite manner. Happy days

Harry, which particular post are you referring to? Earlier I removed a post that on reflection I thought was impolite. If you let me know and I agree I will remove it. Personally I think ALL the MPs were voting on what they think is best for the country. That means that some disagree with others and with what is thought to be public opinion. They cannot ALL be right, but they can All be wrong. David

I've read most of the 'political' threads, and their replies, that have been put on the boards since July 7;and I'm very surprised that Tony Blair hasn't received more support from the contributors to this thread.

I havent always agreed with Tony Blair, but on this occasion I do think he's right and the Police deserve the support they apparently have asked for. Jacqui

I dont like Tony Blair, but in this case I am in agreement, but only if there are safeguards in place, like contact with a solicitor, and by that I dont mean that they should be released but their welfare should be monitored. Its unfortunate but the more tangled the web these terrorists weave the more complicated the investigation. This means that it will probably take longer to look into all the evidence, and thats why I think that the 90 day clause should be used. Sorry but if you want safe you've got to have this in place. As for upsetting people, well if you dont like the way this country's run, then leave!!!! Len

I'm Sorry Len The only way we can be safe is to lock everybody up all the time and that means YOU and ME Why 90 days, why not 120 days why not 5 years, why not life? David

I think that what we are forgetting is what we are supposed to be fighting for. What we have had in this Country and developed ever since King John sealed the Magna Carta. The freedom of the individual. The right to free speech, freedom of religious belief, and, more recently, freedom of women and freedom of sexual choice. We reached a stage where all legislation encouraged the equality, under the law, of every individual. From some of the things I have seen and heard about recently, that is what we stand at risk of losing.

Well said Len. We are not talking about the instigation of a 'police' state - Tony Blair and the like are merely trying to secure the country against 'savages' who would take great delight in blowing as many UK citizens to pieces as they possible could a Jacqui

Well said Jim

Jim, Isn't that what the legislation was trying to do. To allow the ordinary citizens of this country to move about freely without fear of being blown to smithereens?