General Chat

HI David You have every right to feel like that, I assume you are a tax payer as well, but I , personally, am not prepared to give my hard earned money to people who have not and have no intention of contributing to this country. I would far rather make sure that there are no children or old people born and brought up in this country living in poverty than worry about the rest of the world to be honest. When we have an effective health service, decent education for all our kids, plus an effective pension scheme so that pensioners aren't left in squaller because the government has plundered their cash to fund ridiculous immigration schemes then maybe, just maybe, I will change my mind. Councils are forced to house these people over and above people in need here. How can that be right when the people born here have paid their taxes? PS Re your point about immigration and asylum: What 's the difference?Most asylum seekers are refused, but that does not make a difference, as, after a certain amount of years and following pointless appeals they are given residency anyhow

Isn't this thread about asylum seekers and not immigrants?

Marie There is no shortage of money in this country - we're just living in a country that is badly managed and has been for a long time. There are too many people being paid too much to do too little. I'm very happy for my taxes going towards keeping genuine asylum seekers.

I'm sorry I just don't agree. These so called asylum seekers aren't escaping from the holocaust. They are economic migrants out to make a fast buck ( in the main) It is absurd to compare them to the jews. I look after my own first and everybody else second. When there are old people who fought a war for this country living in poverty I find it abhorrent that there is no money available to help them yet there is an open cheque for any migrant here, without any good reason, bleeding the economy dry.

I completely agree with your earlier post Wulliam.

I've heard it said that, if you have spare change in a pot somewhere, then you are in the top 8% of the world's wealthy. We have more than enough.

william, you have made a good point, and put it over in a humane manner. but, look around you, compare the size of our small island, to that of other countries, it's not so much about sharing what we have, it's being asked to share what little we have left. bryan.

I would much prefer to ensure that one person at risk of their life in their own country is given safety here - and risk two frauds getting in as well....rather than refusing all three. During WW2 many hundreds of thousands of Jews died because countries felt that the Jews 'weren't their problem'. Was that right? If not, how can it be right now? We have so much in this country - are we not able to share? William

I agree with everything Marie has said on this subject. Marie

Controversially, I think close the doors. Full stop. We are full to breaking point. We have had more than our fair share for years. It is terrible for the genuine asylum seekers, I agree, but if they are genuine cases I'm sure there are plenty of other places in the world for them to go. We have done quite enough. We should repeal the human rights act, and follow Australia's example where you have to prove you have the economic means to enter the country and face arrest and deportation if you overstay. I think you'll find less interest in these shores once that has been in place for a couple of years.

Perhaps, rather than closing the door entirely to those in real need of asylum we should work on an exchange system. Let one in for every two illegals exported.

What constitutes genuine need? When I was much younger asylum was granted to people in fear of their lives from tyrannical regimes. I do not have any problem with this. My problem comes when people try to get into this country for economic reasons. Jean x.

my views exactly roxanne, i'me not saying close the doors forever, just say two/three years, so we have a chance to get the backlog down. bryan.

I wouldn't want someone in genuine need of asylum turned away in my name.

I feel sorry for genuine asylum seekers but Britain is a tiny country, we cant cope with it anymore, things are getting out of control, until someone can come up with a very good plan of action we should not allow anymore into the country. Its sad but it has to be done.

Just been on the news. 283,000 immigrants have gone missing in England. Sue

Hi Bryan, Yes, I think it is time to close the doors, We cant take everyone and our own should be our priority. Roxanne x

And they wonder why some are fed up with the situation... Bev

Labour's record on dealing with failed asylum seekers is 'a tale of serial failure and serial incompetence', shadow home secretary David Davis says. He spoke after a committee of MPs said failed asylum seekers were not being removed 'anywhere near fast enough'. Many people refused asylum know there is little chance of being caught - a situation the Public Accounts Committee says is 'extremely serious'. But Prime Minister Tony Blair said: 'The progress has been enormous.' 'Serious' situation In its report, the committee warns that it would take between 10 and 18 years to clear the existing backlog of failed asylum seekers. bryan.

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