General Chat

Oh dear! I am disappointed.

Donald will be pleased to see her as he obviously was when Nigel showed up.

It is widely reported.

You must have missed it.

Katie is going to live in America, she promised she would if Trump won.

Running with the media should tell the truth...what about the BBC not telling the full facts about Sharia law in the UK ?
When Muslims countries don't apply the Saria law as harshly as they do in the UK how can that not be reported .

Where is Katie Hopkins these days? She rarely remains silent on diverse topics for too long!

It would be incredibly difficult for all journalists to report all known facts on major events without additional editorial comment.

2" column articles v 2 + pages of additional opinion or background reporting? It would hardly be worth publishing & would stifle discussion. We'd all be asking what haven't we been told.

Integrity has become obsolete.

I might project as you say but I don't dictate.
You'll never have a totally free media and by it's very nature it's meant to make you discuss issues.
I have no problem with someone holding a different view from me but I'd never treat them badly for it.

Caroline, you seem to be doing a great deal of projecting. Maybe they will be happy when all newspapers report accurately and without prejudice. I don't see anything wrong with that, do you?

I don't read it, I never have. Why is my comment inferring censorship? If people want to read it, or any other paper, fine. Just because I hate it, others may love it. Members of my family read it, I don't hate them for it. The only way it will go out of circulation is if people stop buying it - and that is unlikely to happen :-D

Moaning about inequality and being 'out of touch' has nothing to do with applying the law.

As Sheila says the judges are there to uphold the law. That's their job, their personal circumstance are irrelevant. The law is the law and it's their job to interpret and uphold it, their personal feelings and circumstances don't come into it.

Back to the stop funding hate
They will only be happy I assume when the only press available only gives news they are happy with....so they want to censor.....

Yes they uphold the law.....but in the eyes of many they sit up there on their pedestals totally out of touch as do many rich people. Why shouldn't we know something about them ?
As for your toilet reference.....seriously how is that not bordering on censorship....don't read a certain paper fine but I've feeling you'd not be happy until it was totally out of print, but we can all say that about lots of papers or tv news......you have the freedom to choose no one forces you to read for instances the DM so why bother.

Judges don't need to know how the 'average' person feels - if there is such a thing as an average person.

They are there to uphold the law, independent of parliament.

The headline (especially the one that was withdrawn) was despicable. The only use I would have for the DM is for toilet training a puppy...

Agreed the title was open to misunderstanding but not so much they were calling for their heads on spikes. To compare that to the Nazis is stupid. Most judges like most MP from all parties have no idea how the average person on the street feels. It didn't help their cause that the judges all seemed to have strong European connections.
I love the Independent as reading the comments showed it's still doing what it set out to do......people from all stand points debating.

At what point do we call it scare mongering rather than making people think about something. Why shouldn't the public know who those judges were and what their backgrounds were.....has anyone said that isn't really their background...

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Hillary Clinton added a comment to this thread.

here's one recent one, Caroline

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/daily-mail-nazi-propaganda-front-page-ipso-complaints-brexit-eu-enemies-of-the-people-a7409836.html

Then I apologise. Perhaps my mind assumed rather than my eyes read.

I didn't say it was the actor.

Yes, but the Huffungham article doesn't describe the Richard Wilson as an actor. It's not an uncommon name.

Det, if you click on the link Guinevere gives, it takes you to Richard Wilson - the author's - blog, and explains why he started the campaign.