General Chat

Thought last night was best yet. I particularly wept with the mother and her son from New Zealand. What a lovely couple. Face was wringing wet when I climbed to bedsville last night :-)

And how clever of Nicky to find the newspaper article about death of father in the brother and sister from Scotland/Northumberland. I think he is on a par with Anthony Adolph, Hayley ;-)

"Found it"!!! looked for ages it was languishing :-|

I wouldn't watch at all, I do not like Jeremy Kyle or his chavvy show. Nicky and Davina are just the presenters getting paid to present and front a show, although it often shows Nicky tapping in to his PC or laptop I doubt very much that he does the reserch or Davina for that matter. They turn up when required and does his bit for camera they don't get involved in the ground work.

Yeah I am nosey thats why I have already traced Ann's marriage and know her married name and that of husband..........still if she wanted it to remain that private she wouldnt of done all her reunion on a TV show ;-)

I haven't seen the further Facebook additions - but it is possible that it was only after the reunion we saw that the contact with the other brothers and sisters was triggered.

Never heard of acting and drama, Hayley? Ann wants to display to the wider audience what she wants to display. We are all a bit too forensic (nosey) about these programmes perhaps.

Now if Jeremy Kyle was doing the programme rather than Nicky and Davina, I think you would have got more of the answers you want. :-) :-)

Certainly puts a different complexion to the story doesn't it?

Hmmmmmmm exactly why should she, there are aspects of my life I wouldnt share with anyone but my friends....sooo yep you're correct hangggggg on a min didnt she agree to take part in a TV programe or was the part of Ann played by an actress? Nope I dont believe it was but hey let the world know I really am not a selfish women I will shed a few tears for the camera and hug my lost long children with 20 million viewers watching least I can do for them............ :-D :-D :-D :-D

Good point John................it is their story after all :-)

I wondered why Ann had said to Adrian "that's my boy" when he told her he had 10 children. But if she had had 7 herself!!

Obviously a very complicated story, but Ann did not want to share it with the wider world. And why should she?

I am pleased it worked out well for them, whatever happened in the past should stay there and I wish all of them a very happy future :-D

crikey!!! Talk about twists and turns. Wonder what happened to the rest? Glad they got on though. no wonder she didnt want to tell her story on camera!

Florence
in the hebrides.

I read over on the GR FB page that Adrian's son had tweeted after the show and he said that Ann had 7 children in total and all had met and get on like a house on fire.

JohnLovesFletcherofMadeley Report 30 Jul 2013 10:08
I am surprised about comments ref National Assistance. I am not saying you are wrong, just that I do not remember mothers coping with babies on their own in those days without family support or a very good job.

John above is what you posted about NA.

If you can't remember then all well and good but please do not say I am kicking off over me mentioning National Assistance

I am a bit older than you and we had to make do with hand me downs.

Yes I know most of us did that but when I had no shoes to go to school in I had to wear my older sister's Civil Defence shoes and by was I laughed at for having to wear them.

Also was ashamed as we had to have free school meals even in the holidays and everyone knew where you were going if you headed down to the school hall during the holidays.

One day we had only 1 egg and 5 slices of bread to eat so my older sister made eggy bread to make the egg go further and there was rent to pay plus leccy gas had to be paid through meters plus clothes took all the money up from the NA.

My mother would do any job to get some money into the house to put food on the table including cleaning the wealthy peoples houses at a shiling a day
and was an usherette at night time which was only 3 nights a week.

Please don't assume that most woman left with children had family/friends or a very good job because they didn't.

That is my last word on the National Assitance.

I think being on benefits at that time was something that many people would have felt ashamed about. Certainly my sister who is five years younger remembers being made to feel ashamed and 'different' because she had free school meals.

If we hadn't been a family on National Assistance I doubt I would have known about it, as I was unaware of anybody else in the same position.

Suzanne................I didn't know about benefits for mothers on their own then either and I was born in the early fifties.

I don't think the age we are is a factor in our knowledge, or lack of, as much as our life experience.

Our family were lucky enough to live just above the poverty line and were self sufficient to a large degree.................and never had to ask for help.

im sorry if i may have caused an argument here,but i did not know that abused woman got benefits if they left the home in the 60s.

i was not born until 63 but i think John is a few yrs older than me,so he should remember.

but to be fair i think John was only giving his opinion of the programme like all of us.

:-)

Sue. I wasn't insinuating or saying you were wrong about NA. Quite the opposite. But not surprised you want to kick off about it.

I think other posters have clarified what the situation was and explained why one of the lucky ones with two parents (sic) cannot remember NA in 1960's.

Back in the early 60,s I found myself on my own with a young baby.

I received National Assistance of £6-10s. a week. My bedsit rent was £3. My abusive ex was ordered to pay 17s-6d but never ever paid so you went without it.

When my son was 2yrs old I got a full time job and he went to a council nursery at a shilling a day. He was always first in and last out.

It was hard but we managed, just..

JohnLFM.

Well I can assure you I am NOT WRONG about the National Assistance that mother's could claim if they had children and they were left on there own to bring up the children.

And Why am I NOT surprised you are insinuating I could be wrong about
NA.

You were one of the lucky ones to be brought up with 2 parents.

Well I wasn't my mother kicked my father out of the house when I was about 9yrs old only cos she didn't want a man telling her what she should be doing during the day while he was working as a postman.

He was very Victorian in his attitude,women worked in the house and men went to work to earn the money.

She didn't have any family at all as she had been adopted and her adoptive parents had both died before I was born.

And JLFM we aren't talking about in the last 20/30 or 40 yrs we are talking back in the 60's when a lot of men were abusive to women and nothing was done by the police as back before the 1990's it was called a Domestic and the man could beat a woman to nearly deaths door and still nothing was done by the law.

Well you wouldn't remember back then as you are just a bit younger than me.

Yes maybe private ones but then why make the whole thing and search public viewing?

Like others whenever I watch this show it always leaves me with a million questions.

Like already asked what happened to the other brother? Maybe he too had been adopted and was not interested. When Sharon/Amanda was born Adrian was only 4 yrs old so he was still in his Mothers care, as he said he knew there was a sister and he still with his mother for 2 years after her birth. She may of loved her children and felt unable to let go, but she put a man before them, probably thats why I was unable to shed a tear. However if her children can find it in their hearts to forgive her then that is wonderful, however we will never know as that part of the story will never been told, least by this programe anyhow. ;-)