General Chat

Love your thought for today Cynthia.
My best friend since I was 15, became my husband
and now my carer, I have other dear friends and count
my blessings everyday.

Emma :-)

Thank you Cynthia for your daily words which I always read though I don't often comment.

I heard the interview on Today with Justin Welby and did think how refreshing it was to hear a man of God who sounded as if he had some understanding of the world outside the church.

The best priest I ever came across had been a Christian all his life but had worked in industry until he was 50, and then had been ordained. Perhaps there should be a requirement for anyone entering the priesthood to spend time working in other fields first!

I thought of him too John. He was in the oil industry in finance though wasn't he?


As for church finances - we have seen some dreadful mis-handling of church money by the Church Commissioners over the years. Absolutely heartbreaking how they could get things so wrong on occasions. :-(

Hello Cynthia :-) :-) I thought it was so refreshing when Justin Welby was appointed. He had been in a career before church, albeit it in the hated banking industry. And I so agree with his attack on usury and hope he will not be put off by the church finance people investing in Wonga. That sort of thing is bound to happen. However ethical we try to make our private investments and personal pensions, we are bound to get some of our income from very dubious companies with dubious practices.

Hello John - I quite agree with you about clergy who are ordained straight from college etc. I do wonder if that's why so many of the younger ones seem to struggle a bit.

There is a tide of opinion at the moment, that many of those who are newly ordained, tend to treat the priesthood as a 'job' rather than a vocation. They can be difficult to contact and want to work 9-5 hours. Many of us, I'm sure, can remember the days when the vicar was available almost 24/7. Times, they are a'changing.... :-S

Fortunately, my vicar and probably Ann's, are 'old school' and we all benefit from it
:-)


So pleased you had a good night Ann and yes, it does make a pleasant change to go to something like that.


Thanks Wend.....

Lovely prayer to-day Cynthia. Good friends are precious. :-)

well it was such a lovely service - great to see St Mary's full to bursting :-)

It was John Rowland's 40th anniversary of ordainment into the priesthood - ordained at St David's Cathedral in Pembrokeshire - a lovely, lovely cathedral

It was also the Feast of St James yesterday - the sermon was given by a former curate of St Mary's - the Revd.Dr Trystan Owain Hughes, Anglican Chaplain for Cardiff University and a very entertaining sermon it was with lots of laughter along the way

Refreshments in the church hall afterwards - a lovely evening out - and quite a change

Many thanks for starting day right as usual, Cynthia :-) :-) :-) So many of us love your thoughts. And, like you, I am hoping AnnC's service last night was uplifting. Some of the clergy do come through the school and university system to ordination and have had little contact with what we call the "real world". And it must come as a shock to them sometimes, just as the many Christians that have had little experience of our world come as a bit of a shock to us.

I am thinking of nuns and monks in closed orders. But also simple Christians who have been brought up in a Christian home all their lives and have never sworn, never gossiped and have a group of like-minded friends who seem to spend their lives being unselfish and helping others. I am aware that they don't need to be Christians - they can be of other faiths or none. I only mention those who are Christians because of the thread title.

Also, can we remember those poor families in Spain following the horrendous train crash. They so need our prayers.

Good morning all........Ann, how did it go last night? :-)



My two manic days are over thank goodness - thank you for your thoughts. :-)



We have lunch at church on Fridays - Emma would love to see my vicar with his apron on, cutting the pie into sections or teasing one of the helpers because they can't count..... :-D


A thought for today:

Among the great and glorious gifts
Our Heavenly Father sends
Is the Gift of Understanding,
That we find in loving friends....

For in this world of trouble
That is filled with anxious care
Everybody needs a friend
In whom they’re free to share...

The little secret heartaches
That lay heavy on their mind,
Not just a mere acquaintance
But someone who’s “Just Our Kind".

For, somehow, in the generous heart
Of loving, faithful friends
The good God in His charity
And wisdom always sends...

A sense of understanding
And the power of perception
And mixes these fine qualities
With kindness and affection.

So when we need some sympathy
Or a friendly hand to touch,
Or an ear that listens tenderly
And speaks words that mean so much...

We seek our true and trusted friend
In the knowledge that we’ll find
A heart that’s sympathetic
And an understanding mind…

And often just without a word
There seems to be a union
Of thoughts and kindred feelings
For GOD gives TRUE FRIENDS communion.


- Helen Steiner Rice


Cx :-)

Cynthia, I love the New Day prayer. Short but very very sweet. Thank you.

Lovely as always Cynthia. I hope I am not flashing
into your thoughts every time your lovely vicar comes
up with a funny remark Cynthia ;-)
What a character he is, thank you for sharing his smiles
around, I'm defo his No1 fan :-D :-D

Emma :-)

What a lovely gesture from your vicar Ann, it sounds as though he thinks as much of his parishioners as they do of him. I hope it is a lovely evening for all concerned. Let us know how it goes please... :-)


I thought of Emma the other night. Apparently, on Sunday morning when the young people on the drums and guitars were really 'going for it', our vicar, as he processed solemnly up the aisle, leant over and whispered to one of the older ladies present, "I'm ordering Anadin for next time". :-D :-D


Anyway, I mustn't dally around - I want to get some housework done and then pick my daughter up. We're going to a funeral at 1pm and then on to pick up my friend who has mobility problems. Yesterday, I did nothing but walk and drive, walk and drive......phew......


Here is today's prayer from me - one with a Celtic tradition


A New day

As I wake from sleep, rouse me,
As I wash, cleanse me,
As I dress, gird me with your power,
As I eat, energise me,
As I journey, protect me,
As I relax, calm me,
As I sleep, surround me.

- Jenny Child.


Hope everyone has a good day. Cx :-)

off to church this evening - me and my pal - our vicar is holding a service to thank those parishioners who helped him most when he first moved to the parish about thirteen years ago - this was his first parish as he'd been more of an academic prior to coming to us and was a little stiff and unapproachable at first but slowly he came round - I think his chaplaincy at our local psychiatric hospital, where my pal and I both worked [she's still there in fact] helped him a lot to become more "human" and now everyone thinks the world of him - you don't always get a lot of respect off psychiatric patients!!! - brought him down to earth I think :-D

Cynthia, the Helen Steiner Rice words are always a joy to read.

I will say a quiet little prayer to help you cope with your "manic couple of days ahead" Take care and thank you.

Thank you as always Cynthia.

Emma :-)

lovely - just lovely :-) :-)

Good morning all. I have a manic couple of days ahead of me, so I won't be around very much till the evening.


I hope you find this prayer helpful. I do.



Prayers Can't Be Answered -Unless They Are Prayed

Life without purpose
is barren indeed
There can't be a harvest
unless you plant seed.

There can't be attainment
unless there's a goal,
And man's but a robot
unless there's a soul.

If we send no ships out,
no ships will come in,
And unless there's a contest,
nobody can win.

For games can't be won
unless they are played,
and prayers can't be answered
unless they are prayed.

So whatever is wrong
with your life today,
You'll find a solution
if you kneel down and pray -

Not just for pleasure,
enjoyment and health,
Not just for honours
and prestige and wealth.

But pray for a purpose
to make life worth living,
And pray for the joy
of unselfish giving -

For great is your gladness
and rich your reward
When you make your life's purpose
the choice of the Lord.


- Helen Steiner Rice



Cx :-)

Ouch! Yes it will be a poignant day indeed Ann. No doubt you will be on hand to help her through having been through the same sad scenario your self. You're a good friend indeed... :-)

lovely prayer Cynthia - most touching

Thanks Cynthia and John - Lorraine is going to find it strange to come to terms with the fact that he's gone - she was so used to him being away, sometimes for months, so I'ts going to take a long time for reality to kick in - how long we have no idea - it's her birthday next Monday so that will be a sharp reminder to begin with

Many thanks for posting about funeral of Kenny Smiles, AnnC. It sounds like a very moving and meaningful service.

And what a lovely prayer for our new Prince, Cynthia. :-) :-)