General Chat

Rose I will always hang around for you and your next thread. "I am standing by the lamppost at the corner of the street in case a certain little lady comes by. Oh me. Oh my"

Songwriters don't write such lovely words now. Have spent most of my life meditating "Hot diggety, dog ziggety. Boom. What you do to me". Have concluded it is filthy and deserves an RR ;-)

Ah no John I would never be embarrassed to tell people I had been RR'd :-D It's not the first thread to mysteriously disappear ( even very innocuous ones on genealogy have vanished into a black hole ).

I will no doubt have cause to put up a new one on the state of the nation ;-) ( bet you can't wait lol) what with Cleggy standing up to DC at the Lib Dem conference and pushing for "fairer tax for tough times" ;-) and the new 'Universal Credit' due out next year, I'd direct everyone to have a look, fore-warned is fore-armed as they say .

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/policy/welfare-reform/universal-credit/

Some interesting conclusions to be drawn from reading between the lines of the FAQs
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/universal-credit-faqs.pdf

Like it never existed. Is this what is meant by virtual? Ooo-er. It reminds me of Journey into Space on the wireless. Lemmy frightening me whilst I sucked my dummy sat on my grandma's knee :-( :-0

you could be right John
But maybe we will never know ;-) ;-)

Think RR has been RR'd Too embarrassed to tell us, probably. ;-)

Surprised thread has still not been reinstated. Or for that matter the bullying thread.

Serious threads like that do make us think and react. Perhaps they hit home sometimes.

But these chat boards lose a lot when threads like that go missing. Anyway, back to thinking about something witty to say about the tree of Jack Schitt :-( :-(

Genelaogy threads and suggestions thread are sooooo slow these last few days. Interesting query about India/Pakistan roots on Genealogy, but that had died a death. Even the "I have just come back to Genes and I am appalled......" new post (usually posted on Games and Quizzes) has now dwindled to a trickle. :-( :-(

Jo I meet some via work, some via voluntary church and charity activities, some are just friends.

I have always tried to do what you do. Have been married thru ups and downs and OH is an absolute saint. Never complains. Just gets on with it. My children never have felt they have gone without. Even sugar sandwiches were made to sound exciting.

But we have never been down to our last MacDonalds meal or last IPod or last mobile phone or last packet of fags. Anyone who can live like that is not poor in my definition.

I last read your thread late last night Rose. I was too tired to reply then and didn't have time this morning as I had to go out. From the sounds of it I've missed some interesting bits.

John

So you did answer my question ..... you do meet all these people in the course of your work.

I too like people and are ready to listen to whatever they have to say but I sometimes have to take what I hear with a grain of salt.

I also know what it is to be absolutely skint. Like with a daughter one week old my husband went into hospital - which turned in to him being there for three months with sickness benefit of £3.10s a week with a rent of then £3.3s per week. without the help of my family we would have been out on the street. The only 'benefit ; then was National Assistance.

Never been wealthy but have always managed to pay my way because always lived within my means which unfortunately is not something that most people do now days.

Jo

Joeva Thanks for question. Had better not answer fully. But I get around each week over about 60 square miles and talk to many each day. All walks of life, all situations. I just like people.

Hope you can accept that I know what I am talking about, have actually been in most of the places during my long life (from relative wealth to quite abject poverty).

But the views are mine - and I am happy if anyone thinks I am a prat (as one common sewer or connoisseure) called me. Mature debating point for him, no doubt.

I think it's possibly because the initials IDS are so similar to IBS, just a typo away, but both are inclined to give one a pain in the gut :-D

John

With respect .......you do seem quote many times on people you have had conversations with each day on all the subjects under discussion ..... just wondering if this because you live in a very small community or that it is part of your work.
Forgive me if you find this intrusive but would really like to know.

Jo

Which way were you disinclined? Towards Ian Smith or Duncan Smith. They are twins according to Wikipedia. Ian is the bald, boring one, Duncan takes the biscuit.

Bring back Clem and Nye. Or is that too political? ;-)

lol John, I am sure the two are not connected...I was politically disinclined towards IDS long before your presence here :-D

Rose Every time I come on your threads you want to spit, retch, vomit.....

So sorry. But there are a lot of bugs within this new layout, so it might be Genes fault you are so full of ire - not mine after all ;-)

Where there's life there's hope John ;-)

On a positive note, spoke to two young brothers today who have not had much work for quite a time.

One of them was bursting to tell me they had both had an interview with Admiral today - now one of largest Welsh private companies. And they both felt they had done really well and had been offered training - which may lead to a job.

Wistfully raising their sights from their present dingy council flat and X Reg Clio and thinking of their luxury flat in the Bay and their Lamborghin like all young men. But it was infectious to see their enthusiasm. And coupled to two men talking about night opportinities in a factory in Bridged last week, there does seem a bit of hope around.

Even in the second poorest county in the whole if the UK in termes of per capita income. :-D :-D

" But he thinks the clever fraudsters will still be doing well even after these changes. They will only affect the vulnerable like him."

Precisely, the 'clever' ones will, and always have, grabbed whatever 'opportunity' came along, not just benefits, but the dodgy insurance claims. the tax fiddlers, the black economy etc... the trouble is with the benefits slashed it will be the ones who don't play the system that suffer most, the genuine cases. The fraudsters will always find another way.

There will be people who are 'found fit to work' who will die, without the comfort of those extra benefits which make life 'bearable' ( not luxurious or pampered by any means) , and then what will IDS, ( who lost his party an election already) do? Retire and make a fortune as a company director and after dinner speaker ....Spit, retch , vomit.

Oh dear I seem not to be able to be quite calm on this one lol.

i don't have a clue John to be honest
i am able bodied myself
but do feel for the sick and disabled of this country
well the genuine ones that is

Atos should give the money back they have been paid as G4 have done
over their failure to do the job paid for


if so many are winning their appeals they are not doing their jobs right :-(

Joy, Spoke to a man about 50 today. Have known him a couple of years, he is quite ill, cannot walk without crutches and is fairly obviously not able to work.

Asked him about ATOS. He passed with flying colours, able to do all sorts of jobs apart from Hussain Bolt's jogging partner. So his benefits will be stopped. Says they are stopping 100% round here. Everyone is really worried about what will happen, many are prepered to lose homes cos they won't be able to pay rent etc. Reckons Govt will review because of the stink. But if not, he will be sleeping under Pandy Bridge. Nice chap, lovely sense of humour, but I can tell very worried indeed.

He did tell me that benefit fraud was a big problem. He is angrier than me about it (I think many on benefits are). But he thinks the clever fraudsters will still be doing well even after these changes. They will only affect the vulnerable like him.

Do you really think the RR'er and/or phantom remover is on benefits and shouldn't be? :-0