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Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 9 Sep 2012 11:17

now slightly off topic,
how would you know if someone is disabled "enough"
for example Oscar Pistorious,no legs below the knee
he can run 400 metres in less than 50 seconds

I cant. (I'm 74,I have Copd and gout, but to see me........I look normal, fit.....)

to see him while wearing trousers, wearing walking prosthetics.on the podium, If you didnt know,

how could you tell?

Bob

Julie

Julie Report 9 Sep 2012 11:15

What annoys me is when you get an able bodied person taking someone out with a badge just so they can sit in the car in the carpark.

I did say to a lady once that was parked in the parent & toddler bay that she had forgotten something as she was driving off.....she stopped & said that she hadn't but i said she had did she leave her toddler in the shop liolol

Sharron

Sharron Report 9 Sep 2012 11:14

we could claim a blue badge for my dad but decided it would not get the use to warrant it.

However,my partner has gout which occasionally becomes very painful and I have a problem that causes my back to go into spasm without warning and have suffered from something in the past that stopped me walking more than a few yards.

We don't need a blue badge but,sometimes,we need a little leniency with where we park. Generally one of us will drive the other and stay in the car as close to where we can to pick them up.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 9 Sep 2012 10:57

Thank you for coming back Bob.

My main gripes are: able bodied using disabled bays and cash point cripples. They are the ones who don't seem able to walk further than 20 feet from the cash machine and think it's OK to park half on the pavement or 'pop in to a disabled bay'.

People using a blue badge without the person it belongs to being in the vehicle, that is admitted to on a disability site I belong to.

As for me being happy that the driver would receive a £70 fine why wouldn't I be pleased? It might just stop them from repeating the abuse and deter others once word gets around.

Victoria Beckham's driver parked in a disabled bay whilst she went into a well known toy store, perhaps her high heels prevented her from tottering more than 20 feet!

It's just inconsiderate, end of!

I'd swap my duff leg for a good one and hand in my vehicle and badge in a heart beat.

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 9 Sep 2012 10:50

Yes Fred, but once its there?


LOL

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Sep 2012 10:47

Sorry Suemaid - it may be 'handy' but not impossible to manage both! Its all in the training, and if necessary the modern version of 'reins'.

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 9 Sep 2012 10:43

You must have tax, mot & insurance unless you declare to the DVLA that the vehicle is off the road.

You also need it to get to the supermarket.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 9 Sep 2012 10:41

DET - what if there is a parent and children rather than child. My daughter had a 2 y.o. toddler and new-born twins. It was really handy for her to park the car close to the shops and only have to walk a short distance rather than risk walking through a carpark with moving cars and keep hold of a twin stroller and a toddler.

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 9 Sep 2012 10:26



taken from Freds' Link

The Blue Badge Scheme does not apply to off-street car parks, for example supermarket car parks. However, off-street car parks may provide bays for Blue Badge holders. Please check any signs or notices before parking.




if supermarket carparks are indeed private land and impose their own rules
then as private land we dont need tax, insurance, or mot to be there?........

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Sep 2012 10:18

If only more stores would ticket illegally parked vehicles in Disabled bays.

Although they may be a bit further from the doors, why not park in the Parent and Child bays (and display your badge) if the disabled bays are full? At least they are normally wider than the 'normal' ones making it easier to open the car door wide.

Off topic - but I can't understand why parent and child bays have to be close to the store entrance. Unless the parent and/or child also has a mobility difficulty...in which case they'd have a Blue Badge... they ought to be able to walk 50 - 100 metre like everyone else!

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 9 Sep 2012 10:15

If you park properly you won't get fined.................simple.

The biggest problem with motorists is that they will drive 50 miles to a supermarket but won't walk 50 metres to get into it.

badger

badger Report 9 Sep 2012 10:12

Sorry that you are annoyed about the £70 fee regarding illegal parking Bob ,but if i had my way these people would be getting 3 points on their license too.
I am crippled with arthritis ,as well as having angina and pvd in my right leg .
Sometimes i have to park in the general bays ,and struggle in great pain to walk the 30 yards or so ,to get into the store .
It does NOT help when able bodied people take up a disabled spot to sneak to a hole in the wall to get money out.or indeed use a spot for an hour or more to do their weekly shopping.
I too at times cannot get in at all ,and have to go to a different store ,that's life mate ,you have to deal with it,at least able bodied people can if they have to ,walk half a mile ,to get into a shop ,some of us can't ,Fred. :-|

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 9 Sep 2012 09:43

Right

sorry for the faux pas

I got the impression from the wording of your post that you lived" just around the corner"and that there was no disabled space available to park in the carpark so your driver took the car home after dropping you off....
so I thought it was just a short"mums taxi" ride.

I also assumed that the carpark was absolutely full and there was nowhere to parkup at all.......

and I can understand your feelings when all the disabled spots are taken.....

but supposing a ablebodied driver/shopper drove 10 miles and all the normal spots were taken up...............what do you suggest?? go home again? queue up in the access roads?drive around and around?
in our asda its pay and display but you get your money back if you actually buy something in asda
my guess is that they would park up as they do in our local sainsbury's,
in the pick up lanes and shop..

I didnt want to get anyones back up........sorry.

Bob

ps what DID annoy me was your apparent pleasure that there is £70 fine to pay .


LadyScozz

LadyScozz Report 9 Sep 2012 02:36

My Mother had a disabled parking card.

She didn't have a car, and she never learned to drive.

But ~ when friends & family took Mum shopping she would display the card on the dashboard. She was entitled to it.

When we visited Mum, OH would go ahead with the shopping trolley, unpack Mum's groceries into our car, and get dirty looks from people. While he was doing that, I was walking with Mum, who had a walking frame and couldn't move quickly. By the time we got to the car the groceries were in, the trolley was returned & OH was getting fed up with the dirty looks & comments.

I don't know how Mum managed to shop when she was by herself, with a walking frame and a trolley!

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 9 Sep 2012 00:05

The person named on the badge MUST be in the vehicle, no ifs ands or buts!

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 8 Sep 2012 23:32

I thought it was only the named person.

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 8 Sep 2012 23:31

Just for info only...................

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/disabledpeople/motoringandtransport/dg_4001061

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Sep 2012 23:30

I'm not aware that people who do not hold a blue badge are allowed to use it to park in disabled bays - that's a new one on me - if they are fit and able they can park likel able bodied people

It cannot be true or anyone could illegally use a bue badge and say "Oh, I'm shopping for the holder of the badge"

Kay????

Kay???? Report 8 Sep 2012 23:22

some use cars of badge holders which they are able to do for errands,,,and the badge entitles them to park,,,,,,,so often a healthy young person can be seen leap frogging out of a car parked in the disabled bit.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Sep 2012 23:16

me too!!! Bob is a bit of a joker I know but I ain't laughing at his post

I always check the cars in the disabled bays to see if they have blue badges - this is since my lovely OH had a blue badge - he looked very healthy to the untrained eye but in fact was dying - so I try not to judge people who leap out of cars displaying disabled badges - he only had the badge for six months when he died - and they turned him down first time even though he had a terminal incurable untreatable illness