General Chat

maybe his corns were giving him gip. ;-) :-D

well he didn't come across as a happy soul :-)

Mind, he might just as easily have been a jobsworth in a bad mood!

point taken Eldrick - always good to get differing points of view and I have learned quite a bit from this

A lot of companies, the PO included, carry out integrity tests of their employees. They do this to ensure rules and policies are being applied and obeyed.

Obviously, the employee has no idea whether or not the person is testing him or if it is genuine. .

annoyed really because this is the first time I have come across it - having handed letters to a postie in the past with no probs

Stand for 1 hours in this mans shoes

Not a job I ever would consider. Jobsworth or not he was merely doing his job. Yes he should has been using a mail sack, and if he had been mugged he would have been severely reprimanded for not carrying out his job properly. This would in all probability been by a manager who had never worked as a postman, a direct entrant who has read the books and therefore knows the jobs inside out.


Why be angry about a rule that is a couple of hundred years old!

to be honest it's the rule I am angry about not the postman - though if he was as concerned about security as he professed to be then he should have had the letters he collected in a sack not in his hand - anyone could have snatched them out of his hand and he was not fit enough to have done anything about it - in my opinion he was a jobsworth

I fully understand that people will have different points of view, of course they will, but it's just my take on it

It has NEVER been allowed. Nor are postmen allowed to give you back an item you may have posted in error.

It is the Rules they have to work to. Nothing to do with 'elf & safet' but the security of the Queens Mail.

Complain to Royal Mail by all means, try to get this postman in trouble for merely doing his job. Why not he is an easy target.

As said before, you did not see him actually empty the postbox so you had to assume he was the real postman and not some 'oddbod' just dressed up (this does actually happen, I can assure you). If this had been the case and he took the letters which would never have been dellivered you would then be able to complain about Royal Mail deliveries and letters going missing in the post.

Damned if they do and damned if they dont.

However, once it is all privatised and a box is only emptied once a day (yes I know that some in certain quiet areas now are only cleared once a day) and in rural areas you only get mail a couple of times a week. Then you will have something to moan about. By which time it will be far too late to go back to the good old days.

When I worked at Royal Mail a woman was regularly phone in to complain that the pillar box she could see from her front window was never emtied. Aftter lots of investigations it turns out she was looking at a Lewisham Borough waste bin which at the time were also red!!! The pillar box was about 10 yards away and she could not see that.

Never mind, :-( if you complain you never know they may send you a book of stamps,that could be worth a few bob at todays rates :-D :-D

well I think he could have handled it quite differently - if instead of coming out with all that he did, if he had just said I'm sorry, I wish I could but it's not allowed for security reasons that would have been the end of it - I was not "shouting him down" to the security man, I was just canvassing his opinion

I also have handed a letter to a postman
I was going to post a letter just round the corner from me and the postman was already at the postbox , i shouted to him and he said
dont run stay there, then he got into his van and came up beside me and took my letter i thanked him, he said thats o.k. no problem .
Hazelx

Imagine the devastation you could cause with a letter bomb in Sainsbury's.

Good point Choccy, not to mention leaving Her Majestys' mail van unattended :-0
This sort of thing should be stamped out!

just a thought - should he have been shopping whilst at work ? :-)

if its policy not to handle the post direct frm a customer then, hes right it would be his job at stake, and he is only following rules,


id be cross if someone expected me to do something against the job rules n risked me being sacked if im honest,

silly as it is, he was only doing what he has been told to, and you shouting him down to the securtiy gaurd may have made him feel belittled, :-(

its not his fault, if hes bene told he is not allowed,

har har

Years ago I posted a letter, as it dropped I realised I'd forgotten to put the cheque with the bill! Arrrrrrgh. So I went into the post office and explained. They wouldn't get my letter, against the rules! So I had to telephone the company and let them know what I had done, and sent them the cheque with a covering note.

Couple of years ago brother-in-law phoned us to say he'd sent a parcel. A week later he phoned again, said the parcel was returned to him (with a sticker saying there was no such address), and we confirmed that he'd sent it to the correct address. So he sent it again (argument with person in post office, he wasn't paying postage again)......... and we never got it.

PO is right.

I had this in the 80,s,

I met the postman emptying the post box,
He told me when i tried to give him the letter that it's not allowed, but he would keep the box open and if i posted it in the normal way before he locked it then he could take the letter out with the rest of the mail.

That was big of him :-P

Now over the last 10 years they are wondering why they are loosing business and we are using email :-P

Roy

and make sure it's a real Sainsburys and not one with a postie in fancy dress :-D

The moral of this story Ann............

Get to Sainsburys 5 minutes earlier next week!! :-D