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BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 11 Jul 2010 16:52

Hi Norma

I use Ancestry---Find My Past--and FreeBMD (and others but mostly these) I don't use GR for Census etc. only to "Search Trees"

Please can I ask what certificates you have , Norma ?
Something isn't quite adding up right !!!!!

You say your Mums, mothers maiden name is Goulding---and yes I can see John and Elizabeths marriage index

HOWEVER the Elizabeth I found on 1901 census (with the TOPPING family) turns out on earlier census to be THEIR DAUGHTER !!! (Edward and Mary Topping) But I can't find a marriage index for Mary and Edward to see if Mary had Elizabeth before she married Edward.

I was hoping to find she was Mary Goulding !!!!

There are birth indexes for both Elizabeth Topping AND Elizabeth Goulding born Wigan

Births Jun 1864

TOPPING Elizabeth
Wigan 8c 27
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Births Dec 1863

GOULDING Elizabeth
Wigan 8c 52

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Births Mar 1864

GOULDING Elizabeth Ellen
Wigan 8c 74


Do you know for certain that the children on 1911 census I posted are your Aunts and Uncles ? Have I got the right census for your Mum ? If your not sure I have the right one
I will look again and again --I want to help you find the right family.

Best wishes
Barbara xx

holamiga

holamiga Report 11 Jul 2010 15:27

Hi Barbara
Today I seached the 1901 & 1911 Censuses once more at GR to find the info you found without success.
Does this mean you got the info. from another source. It's getting under my skin that I can't find the details myself. I want to find out about the children who died.
I now have my mother's siblings in the correct order and it's great.
Cheers
Norma
PS just been over to Freebmd
and didn't find it user friendly after quite some time modifying search clicking on results brought me Ancestory .Uk sso I gave up but did notice prices cheaper than GR

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 23:28

Hi brilliant Barbara

Grandmothers maiden name was Goulding.
Yes grandfather was a joiner but later worked for a brewery ( clerk & journeyman) and had a pub The Rising SUN where many family members lived, to my regret I didn't know either of them, mother being last in line.
Marvellous effort on your part. It is clear to me that I wouldn't have got far without all the help I have got here.
Many thanks.
Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 23:20

Hi Christine
I'm learning here, I naively expected all public info. to be 100% accurate.
Many thanks
Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 23:17

Hi Sylvia

Thanks for your honest advice. I had been wondering how long I could finance my self. As I have said before the govt. may attack my NHS pension and then I could be 'snookered'.
So grateful
Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 23:12

Once again you have hit the bull's eye. So much for me to work.
Muchas gracias ( for a change lol )
Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 23:08

High Barbara
To quote Elvis " I'm all shook up " in a good way of course, so much to absorb.

yes!son, right age, b.1890
yes! Richmond St. a side road off Hallgate.
yes! I remember the name Topping but not the
connection.There was Bill an Insurance agent ( bowler hat & cauliflower ears)
Yes ! here are aunts & uncles
Yes! now know Johns parents names, to work on.
Norma

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 10 Jul 2010 23:05

Hi Norma,

If you search for your mother on the 1911 as Leddon you will see when looking at the household it states the years married and children born alive.

Christine

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jul 2010 23:02

Yes that's right the info is on the original of the 1911

Wendy

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 10 Jul 2010 22:59

Hello Norma, Tenerife Sun will have got this information from the 1911 census. This is one of the questions that it lists. :)

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 22:50

Hi Tenerife Sun

How do you know that, it's not common family knowledge ?
Thanks
Norma

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 10 Jul 2010 20:28

One of the problems with trying to search on GR census is that you can't search with just a Christian name.


Christine

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Jul 2010 16:21

Hi Norma

You are very welcome

I just put in the search boxes

Ethel (no Surname)

1907 +/- 1 year

born Wigan

and when the results came up I just looked for a name that could have been mistranscribed--and there she was bless her.


Hope this helps
Best wishes
Barbara xx

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 15:47

Hello Christine


Many thanks. I have much to learn. Not getting so excited would be one.

Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 15:44

Hi Barbara

Eureka! absolutely spot on. How did you do it ?
Many many thanks. Some of my aunts here.

Many many thanks
Norma

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 15:40

Hi Sylvia
I did as you suggested with every other detail
I could provide. Seems like folk can be lost then.
This maybe why I can't find a death cert. for my friends birth mother.
Thanks
Norma

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 10 Jul 2010 15:31

Hi Norma,

You had put the details on earlier but we are now on page 2.

Your family has been found and if you want to find her on GR she is down as Ethel Leddon as I also said earlier.

Christine

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 15:17

I feel as if I have typed this before but it isn't showinging. Mother will be easiest.

Ethel Seddon b 11/08/1907
51 Hallgate
Wigan Reg. Dist.
County of Lancaster

holamiga

holamiga Report 10 Jul 2010 15:00

Thanks Eddie, that's very discouraginging but that's life as they say.
Norma

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Jul 2010 09:37

Good Morning all

Hi Norma
What does it say on your Mums birth certificate for her mothers maiden name ?

And is her Dad --John 's occupation a Joiner

Best wishes
Barbara xx