General Chat

Hi Susan with numbers,
I often have strange thoughts like you about vegetarians and vegans,

They say that global warming is partly due to animals that graze, like
cows, sheep, horses, i.e. grass and vegetation eaters.
the amount of Green stuff they eat turns to gas which they expel it , thereby adding to the cause of global heating, do you think vegetarians and vegans cause the same problem.....lol

Surely keeping a pet is exploiting an animal for your own purposes? By keeping an animal captive, you are denying it it's 'rights' to a free and natural life, which is what being a vegan is all about - I think......

Therefore I wouldn't expect a true vegan to own any sort of pet :-)

I don't even want to think about what our previous cats have chomped over the years, especially on the farm *yuk*.

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Mag I am happy that it worked out for you. Not something I could imagine doing for mine though.

Paul McCartney' pets were veggie

SueM so am I honest my Mutts eat veggies well not cucumber or onion but I couldn't deny them the steak they may get.

But and now this is honest a lot here only feed their pets on dried food. so maybe it is possible .....looks at taking the meat flavour out of the rest

dogs and cats are carnivorous
and are not built to eat just vegetables

I was being serious *tuts* :-(((


lol

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Mag did you have your veggie dog from a pup ?

Alas Soom, this may be true. I have for some time now ( as some of you may know ) been trying to train my cat to eat birdseed so's she can sing in tune of a night time. All to no avail :-(.

TSK! Soom and Red.....twas a serious discussion and now you have started me orft.....sigh!

Please ignore them...they are trying to make me laugh

What an interesting question,

I have known veggie friends to only feed their pet their food, not something I can agree to. Each animal (including humans) has a natural choice, if I stopped eating meat I certainly would not expect my mutts to. infact I think it is cruel to deny them the natural instinct which is meat . ( I do deny my dogs the cats they would like I hasten to add )

lol Sue:-)

I think the cat would just adopt a new owner. Cats aren't stupid lol

How would they stop the cat from hunting?

I can't see a moggy being trained to seek out bean sprouts :-))

As a vegetraian I eat cheese, milk, eggs etc. (Actually I'm not a true vegetarian, it's easier to say that)

Vegans wouldn't, they don't eat anything that is derived from animals. They don't wear leather etc either

Found this discussion which I thought may interest you:

http://caloriecount.about.com/true-vegans-own-pets-ft110129

Sorry Red.:-)....not sure I knew the 'exact' difference having had children who used every excuse not to eat what was put in front of them :-)) Perhaps you could all enlighten me so's I can argue the point with them :-))

maybe true vegans dont own pets, perhaps they prefer them to live naturally in the wild?

Sorry Susan, your title about Vegetarians threw me. Not sure about Vegans. For me, it's a personal thing, I live to my own ideology.

Vegans as such wouldn't be consuming the pet food, the pet would but whether they would see it that way, I don't know.

Hi all :-)

I am still a little confused ( nothing new there then Lol )

From Wiki

Veganism is a diet and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose.[1][2] "Vegans endeavor not to use or consume animal products of any kind".[3] The most common reasons for becoming a vegan are ethical commitment or moral conviction concerning animal rights",


Edit:...I feel I must add that I am not out to slate Vegans.....was just wondering :-)

Hi Susan :-) But I'd be killing my cat if I didn't feed her meat. She doesn't like vegetarian casserole I'm afraid.

Humans have alternatives to eating meat, so I have chosen the alternative for me. I don't enforce it on anyone.

I don't think cats have an alternative - apart from chicken and fish :-) It's natural for them to eat it.

The nice man from whiskas puts the meat in those handy pouches for me so I don't have to kill the meat for them.

Cats are carnnivores ie only eat meat (which is why I can't understand why cat food manufacturers insist on putting peas & carrots in their food - they're always left!) Dogs, however, like humans are omnivores ie they can survive on both meat and plants, so feeding a dog vegan food wouldn't cause too many problems provided their minerals & vitamins were kept up.
However, routinely feeding non- meat products to a cat would be rather unkind, and the number of supplements they'd need (probably meat based) to remain healthy would defeat the object!