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Wendy
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22 May 2009 21:53 |
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Christine I believe l have found Thomas Edward Wells he was baptised in July 1907 at the St James the great in Bethnal green and is listed as being 5weeks old but I believe l have found his registering as oct-dec 1907 1c 131 bethnal green so he was baptised then 4-5 months later they registered him??? Janice .. l dont think that is any of my Ferris's as James and Esther were born 1839 +1835 so they would have been in their 50s-60s when that Albert Ferris was born unless of course he is an offspring of Mary A , Louseina, etc Dancingdee unfortunately most of the family photo's were lost when Caroline and Charles J H Hartlands house got bombed in the war, my grandfathers family seemed to have drifted away a lot so nobody knows if any surviving relatives ave any photo's. Christine snap!!! l found the 1891 census of the William Wells clan too am trying to find any marriages for any of the offsprings of the Hartland, Wells, Macguires, Hartlands now not easy as this is the only site lm subscribed to and cant afford to do the credits thing with any other site so that along with my noviceness is proving difficult. thank you all for your help l just hope between us we can bring things forward , l also hope l can be of help not a hinder lol.
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Wendy
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22 May 2009 21:59 |
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Christine Im baffled by the Ferris Wells males you have listed surely if they are offspring of any offspring of Mary A, Louseina etc they would just have the surname of whoever their mothers married?
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:02 |
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Name: HARTLAND, CHARLES JAMES HENRY Initials: C J H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Civilian Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead Age: 75 Date of Death: 16/10/1940 Additional information: of 17 Upwey Street. Husband of Caroline Alice Hartland. Injured at 17 Upwey Street; died same day at St. Leonard's Hospital. Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead Reporting Authority: SHOREDITCH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:02 |
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Name: HARTLAND, CAROLINE ALICE Initials: C A Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Civilian Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead Age: 72 Date of Death: 16/10/1940 Additional information: of 17 Upwey Street. Wife of Charles James Hartland. Died at 17 Upwey Street. Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead Reporting Authority: SHOREDITCH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:06 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1912 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wells William Ferris Shoreditch 1c 85
Do you mean like this one?
He is William Wells mothers maiden name Ferris born Shoreditch. It may be a coincidence. Have you checked the 1911 census?
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:23 |
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1891 Address: 3, Red Lion Street, Shoreditch HARTLAND, Caroline Head Widow F 53 1838 Chair Caner Clavering VIEW HARTLAND, Charles J H Son Single M 26 1865 Carpenters Porter Clavering Clerkenwell VIEW HARTLAND, Mary A Daughter Single F 24 1867 Servant Cook Clevering Smithford VIEW HARTLAND, Emily H Daughter Single F 18 1873 Boot Work Clavering Hackney VIEW HARTLAND, Henry W Son M 13 1878 Printers Errand Boy Clavering Hackney VIEW HARTLAND, Elizth Daughter F 9 1882 Clavering Shoreditch
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:25 |
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1881 Address: 27, Norfolk Place, Shoreditch HARTLAND, Charles Head Married M 45 1836 Letter Press Printer Hampstead Middlesex HARTLAND, Caroline Wife Married F 43 1838 St Pancras Middlesex HARTLAND, Charles Son Single M 16 1865 Machine Boy (Print) Clerkenwell Middlesex HARTLAND, Caroline Daughter Single F 20 1861 Machinist (Und) Lond City Middlesex HARTLAND, James Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Lond City Middlesex HARTLAND, Anie Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex HARTLAND, Emily Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Bethnal Green Middlesex HARTLAND, Harry Son Single M 3 1878 Bethnal Green Middlesex
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:31 |
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1861 Address: 23, Charter House Street, St Sepulchre, London HARTLAND, Charles Head Married M 24 1837 Fitter Press Printer Hampstead VIEW HARTLAND, Caroline Wife Married F 23 1838 Grays...Road VIEW HARTLAND, Caroline A D Daughter Unmarried F 0 (5M) 1861 Charter House ST
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:40 |
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marriage of Charles J H parents
Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hartland Charles Adolphus Shoreditch 1c 401 Hartland Charles Udolphus Shoreditch 1c 401 Wright Caroline Ann Shoreditch 1c 401
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:44 |
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Births Dec 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARTLAND Caroline Ann Emily W London 1c 43
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Wendy
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22 May 2009 22:47 |
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Christine lm guessing that Henry W and Harry are one and the same? Mary A vanished in 1881 but turns up 10yrs later?? and Anie and James both vanish by 1891!!
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 22:56 |
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Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bastion Thomas James Bethnal Green 1c 635 HARTLAND Caroline Ann E Bethnal Green 1c 635
1901 Address: 8, Branch Place, Shoreditch BASTION, Thomas Head Married M 39 1862 Yard Foreman Kingsland London VIEW BASTION, Caroline Wife Married F 40 1861 City London
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:04 |
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Deaths Sep 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARTLAND James 30 Mile End 1c 352
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:16 |
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Births Dec 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hartland Annie Emily Bethnal Green 1c 191
Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bowler George Augustus Shoreditch 1c 189 Cranmer Eliza Frances Shoreditch 1c 189 Hartland Annie Emily Shoreditch 1c 189 Webster George Shoreditch 1c 189
1901 Address: 8, Branch Place, Shoreditch BOWLER, George Head Married M 28 1873 House Painter Homerton London VIEW BOWLER, Annie Wife Married F 29 1872 Hackney London
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Wendy
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22 May 2009 23:20 |
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that cant be James Hartland born 1869 as he was still alive on the 1881 census that you found Christine.
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:29 |
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Births Dec 1873 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARTLAND Emily Hannah Bethnal Green 1c 202
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CADE Thomas Shoreditch 1c 259 CONNER Louisa Shoreditch 1c 259 Hartland Emily Hannah Shoreditch 1c 259 Wilkins Frederick Shoreditch 1c 259
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:48 |
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In that case there is not a possible death between 1881 and 1901.
I wonder if this is him?
1901 Address: 19, Queensbury Street, Islington HARLAND, James Head Married M 32 1869 Glass Bottle Blower Shoreditch London VIEW HARLAND, Mary A S Wife Married F 30 1871 Shoreditch London VIEW HARLAND, Mary A S Daughter Single F 6 1895 Shoreditch London VIEW HARLAND, James H Son Single M 5 1896 Hackney London VIEW HARLAND, Jane E C Daughter Single F 4 1897 Shoreditch London VIEW HARLAND, Phoebe J Daughter Single F 0 (7 MOS) 1901 Islington London
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:51 |
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no this one is also in 1881 Address: 86, Nicholas St, Shoreditch HARLAND, James Head Married M 39 1842 Glass Bottle Manufacturer ? HARLAND, Eliza Wife Married F 37 1844 London Middlesex HARLAND, James Son Single M 12 1869 London Middlesex HARLAND, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 10 1871 London Middlesex HARLAND, William J Son Single M 8 1873 Hoxton Middlesex HARLAND, Frederick Son Single M 5 1876 Hoxton Middlesex
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LadyKira
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22 May 2009 23:55 |
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Births Sep 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARTLAND Henry William Bethnal Green 1c 172
Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cosins Catherine E Hartland Holborn 1b 1502 Hartland Henry W Cosins Holborn 1b 1502
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LadyKira
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23 May 2009 00:02 |
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Henry is with brother Charles in 1901
1901 Address: 95, Canonbury Road, Islington HARTLAND, Charles J H Head Married M 36 1865 Type Founders Warehouseman Clerkenwell VIEW HARTLAND, Caroline A Wife Married F 33 1868 Hoxton VIEW HARTLAND, Charles Son M 5 1896 Hoxton VIEW HARTLAND, Albert Son M 3 1898 Hoxton VIEW HARTLAND, Alice Daughter F 2 1899 I S Hoxton VIEW HARTLAND, Clara Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Islington VIEW HARTLAND, Henry W Brother Single M 23 1878 Printers Foundry Man Hackney VIEW DESSMOND, Cornelius Boarder Single M 22 1879 Printers Porter Whitechapel VIEW WARD, John E Boarder Single M 24 1877 Barman Camden Town
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