General Chat

Obviously Tony has given really good advice on this, and I agree that none of us were there, and therefore whatever we say will be mere conjecture, but,

the phrase the boy used in his question (just about word for word) has been used numerous times by a good few friends of my sons (very similar age to Kellie's daughter) mainly by black & asian friends, but once or twice by white kids too, said by all of those friends as a joke, and (importantly) copied from a popular Ali G character. So I hope that whoever investigates the alleged racist remarks will consider the full picture.

Maria x

As I said before, get a copy of the policy on racial abuse, and check that the school have followed it. Once you have ascertained that, then request an appointment with the Headteacher to discuss it further.

None of us were there. As I said earlier, if the facts are as you state then it appears a bit harsh and you need to talk to the school. You may not have the right of audience with a panel of Governors unless it is part of an appeals process, and you can't begin the appeals process until you have discussed the matter with the school.

With the very greatest respect, at this moment you only have your daughter's take on the situation. You can canvass opinion until you are blue in the face, but you really need to visit the school and discuss this there. Until then, anything else is conjecture.

you have to understand colour did not come into the comment he was pulling faces and acting like a monkey. while i understand as an adult the comment was inappropriate it was in this instant used by a child who did not understand that it could be offensive if used correctley with the intent to associate his skin colour with the term.
when there is any hint of discrimination whether it be racism, sexism,ageism it seems commen sense goes out of the window and the PC brigade come marching in destroying everything in its path, innocent or not.

I'm not up on the rules and regs of it all tbh Kerrie but if it were my daughter in this position I'd make an appointment to see the head at the earliest possible moment.

I would then write a letter detailing the meeting and send it on to school governors if I was dissatisfied with the outcome, demanding a meeting with them.........then take it from there.

Hope it all works out for the best in the long run xx

Kellie, I'm personally not happy with mixed race or black kids being called 'monkey' as a form of defence or attack but that's just how I feel - my views are a bit coloured by vaguely similar incidents with my niece and my god-daughter.

school's not so bad Meri this sort of thing is isolated incidents x

I am so glad my children have long left school. What a mine field it is for them there, nowadays.

Hi Sylvia

Kelly

I have just read Tony's last post, tis good sound advice. xxx

as i said above thanks for the help/comments.

I worked that out too Sylvia:(

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what skin colour would be ok with you to call somebody a monkey. when acting like a monkey. the term monkey was used for his actions not his skin colour

The comment "even though the teachers understood there was no intent to cause distress she was still punished" indicates that some form of investigation ensued.

However, the only thing you will ever get on here is opinions - and an opinion is worse than perception.

Get a copy of the policy, and check that the school have followed it. Once you have ascertained that, then request an appointment with the Headteacher to discuss it further.

Kelly, Tony has given sound advice.

Speaking now as a mother who's child has now left Education, having worked in a school involved in this area, I cannot understand nor comprehend how a teacher dealt with this matter nor how it was placed on her school record.

When a child is excluded, even for a day, usually the parent/carer is asked to accompany them to reception the next day for a formal meeting with both the headteacher, teacher involved, perhaps others.

There is an organization, can't remember its name, tis part of the local Council or associated with it wherein you can contact them and they will accompany you to any school meetings, advise you, even be your voice if necessary.

thankyou for the replys (thanks tony)
the boy was asked if the comment to be racist his reply was he didn't know. days after the incident the boy in question came upto my daughter and asked her i bet you wished you were black. the boy in question is a bit of a handful to the teachers.

are next cause of action will be to make an appointment to see the headmistress, to express our concerns on how this matter has been dealt with.

I would have thought a 15 year old would know better than to use the word monkey to a kid of mixed race but then the taunting has to be taken into account - we're only giving our opinions, Kellie based on what you've put on here but sounds like Tony is giving sound advice and knows what he is talking about.

Kellie this should NOT have been put on her record unless an investigation has taken place and your daughter prooved to be in the wrong go have a chat with the HT x

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Shimmers right he must also be spoken too!!

Kids ar Kids but there ar those who may use this type of thing as a tool to get someone in trouble sadly we can see this happen too but cos they ar kids they don't always see beyond that, the bigger picture or the consequences x

How old is your daughter Kellie?

she was given a day of isolation and this incident was put on her school record. as i agree all incidents of racism should be investigated .innocent children should not be branded racists. what people forget is this has been quite a traumatic experience for my daughter