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CLAN PRUNTYS (BRONTES AND MORE)

Carol, have found lots of interesting information, yet they do seem to be powerpoints.

This surname of PRUNTY is the anglicized form of the Gaelic O'Proinntigh.

Originally Scottish Presbyterians from Caithness, it is said that this Clan was there before William the Conqueror, Battle of Hastings. Emily Bronte, her three sisters are from Co. Down.

http://www.4crests.com/prunty-coat-of-arms.html

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/prunty-coat-arms.htm

Hi Carol

Will go see what I can find for you hun. :)) >>>>>

Thanks Keith hun, oh gosh ... must get on lol!

Your Clans from Scotland is bringing everyone together, am so enjoying it. :)

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My pleasure Bob ... he'll owe you quite a few pints methinks, you are one of the 'oldest' clans ever :))

I'll put McCallum over on Clans from Scotland, tis another ancient one too. Think it should be here too as they were from Ireland originally. xxx

McCALLUM

The McCallums do originate in the ancient kingdom of Dalriada settled by the first Scots from Ireland.

The District of Lorn in Argyllshire is the original home of the McCallums.

The principal family apparently lived in Cologin about three miles south of the town of Oban.

The name McCallum, in gaelic, Maol Caluim, means son of Columba.

Historical researchers, found the name McCallum in Algyllshire where they were seated from the early times and their first records appeared on the early census rolls taken by the early kings of Britain to determine the rate of taxation of their subjects.

The Dalriadan race of the Hebrides was anciently decended from the early Irish Kings, specifically King Colla da Crioch who was banished from Ireland in 327 A.D., along with 350 clan chiefs.

The surname McCallum emerged as a Scottish Clan or family in their territory of Argyll where they were recorded as a family of great antiquity seated with manor and estates in that shire. The clan were anciently seated at Poltalloch near Loch Craignish in Argyll, The first written reference to MacCallums is in 1414 when Sir Duncan Campbell granted lands in Craignish to Reginald MacCallum of Corbarron, with the office of hereditary constable of the castles of Lochaffy and Craignish.

Spelling variations of the name McCallum caused much confusion in research. From time to time the surname McCallum was spelled MacCallum, Malcolmson, Malcom, Malcomb, Malcome, Malcomson, Malcum, Malcolm, MacCallam, and MacCalum. Sometimes a different spelling indicated a religious or clan loyalty to a branch or cheftian.

you are a princess,thats great.
im english born.but my grandmother was a mcarthur.
ive got a scottish drinking mate(mccallum)hes always taking the mickey out of my little bit of scotch blood.
hell be impressed when i show him that
once again thank you
bobxx

Bob, have pmd you in case you don't see this. xxx

Hi Bob

CLAN McARTHUR

Gosh, goes right back to the ancient myth of King Arthur; they also fought beside King Robert the Bruce and through marriage Campbells entered the ancient bloodline.

McArthur is one of the oldest Clans in Scots history with septs (branches) emigrating all over.

I shall put some of this on the Clans from Scotland which is where it also belongs, here is yours, the Irish sept of McArthur follows lower down.

MACARTHUR

Motto..............:Fide et Opera (By fidelity and work)
Badge.............:Fir Club Moss, Wild Thyme, Wild Myrtle
Lands..............:Argyll, Cowal, Skye
Origin of Name.:Son of Arthur
Slogan..............:Eisd! O Eisd! (Listen! O Listen!)

The legends of King Arthur are well known and historically contradictory. From the Welsh-speaking areas of Strathclyde (in which Glasgow now lies), Rheged and Gododdin (in which Edinburgh now lies), the earliest surviving Scottish poem tells of the resistance leader Arthur fighting against the English of Northumbria when they defeated Gododdin. When Scotland’s Welsh-speaking Kingdoms were wiped out the language returned to Wales and Cornwall.

Arthurian legend was taken with it to be transplanted and developed all over these areas. Arthur’s Seat, however, remains solidly beside Edinburgh. An ancient Celtic couplet ran, ‘the hills and streams and MacAlpine but whence came forth MacArthur?’ so old is the name.

The MacArthurs fought beside Robert the Bruce for Scotland’s independence and gained mid-Argyll lands from the King’s opposers as a reward. From here the MacArthurs prospered and spread, growing into two successful houses - the MacArthurs of Loch Awe and the MacArthur Campbells of Strachur.

In the thirteenth century a MacArthur married the heiress of Duncan mac Duibhne.

Later the Clanh Ua Duihne carried the nickname Cam beul. So through the MacArthurs came the Campbells.

When James I returned from his English imprisonment his wrath fell upon the MacArthurs among others. Through a wave of executions and estate seizures the MacArthurs were stunted and the Campbells became the predominant race north of Glasgow.

In 1567 Duncan MacArthur and his son, of the Loch Awe family, became the victims of their own success when jealousy drove neighbours to drown them in the loch.

A great number of MacArthurs emigrated from Scotland in the years following disastrous Culloden in 1746, choosing to restart in America, Canada, Australia and the West Indies.

IRISH CONNECTIONS

Clann Artair is the Gaelic spelling of Clan Arthur and the original form of the ancient family name - Meaning simply "The Children of Arthur". Mhic is the Gaelic for "son of" and Nhic is the Gaelic for "daughter of". It is from these ancient words that the modern "Mac" or "Mc" have been derived. The original spelling of MacArthur was Mhic Artair, meaning "Son of Arthur", hence the name Arthurson. Nhic has passed out of current usage, but was still prevalent amongst my female ancestors as "Nc" and "Nik" until a few centuries ago. The corruption of the ancient Gaelic language by the modern English tongue, coupled with historic bad spelling, indecipherable writing and regional accents, has given rise to a host of Spelling Variations of the Clan name ranging from Artair to Cartter and MacArta to Makkerthrye.

MacCarthy derives from the Irish Mac Carthaigh and is the most common "Mac" name on The Emerald Isle, prominent in the South. Kings of the ancient Irish Kingdom of Munster (now known as County Cork) the MacCarthys had their main residence at Blarney Castle. Apart from the ancestral relationship between MacArthur and MacCarthy through the High Kings of Ireland, the Munster Coat of arms also displays a shield bearing three gold crowns on an azure background similar to Clan Arthur's.

MacArtain, MacArtan, MacCartan and MacCarton are names common in Northern Ireland around County Down and County Armagh. The name originates from Art or Artan in the diminutive. The oldest form of the name is MacAirt from Cormac MacAirt, a third century Dalriadic "king" of Ireland who has strong associations with Argyll - The homeland of Clan Arthur.

MacCartney and MacArtney translate as "Son of Artaine" and share the same root as MacArthur. The names were common in Galloway and Ayrshire from whence it spread to the Northern Irish counties of Antrim, Down and Armagh. Glen Artney and Strath Gartney are to be found in Central Scotland.

CONCLUSION

The early name forms of Art, Artan, Artur and Artair from which the modern Anglified Arthur is derived, all originate anciently from Argyll, Ayrshire, Galloway and Northern Ireland - Areas all linked culturally by the Northern Irish Sea. The British name Arthur originates from the ancient peoples in the West of Scotland. The Legends of the sixth century "King Arthur" must surely originate from the life of the sixth century "Prince" Artur MacAeden, in the West of Scotland.

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nite nite Barb, so pleased you've enjoyed them. xxx

Dizzi, I've done it I think, might be English though by the looks of it. xxx

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/hales-family-crest.htm

Night ladies, night Keith, have loved this thread today and found it very interesting, you have worked hard Shimms, good night hun.

Barb xxx

Oh Mel,

Found this ... will keep looking for you too yet this is, well you will enjoy it. :)

http://www.gilmartinusa.net/

Done it, tis a powerpoint, this is it lol!

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/gilmartin-family-crest.htm

Hi Dizzi

Found something on Hales, they would appear to come from Co. Mayo,

http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/halew/Hale.html

I'll keep looking for you, scroll down, tis quite interesting. x

Shims you are wonderful ~ bout GilMartin?

SHIMMS

NAME OF HALES PLEASE

My pleasure, I have Irish blood in my veins too, will have to find my link. :)

Thanks Shimms will have a look

WELL DONE SHIMMS

Cutie hun,

Found a fab website for Dower, sorry tis a powerpoint, won't let me c/paste. xxx

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/dower-family-crest.htm