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Ronnie Biggs to be set free

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SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:44

I think so and one killed himself (Buster something?). But as Biggs escaped he didn't serve his prison term. Whether he should now be let off the rest because he is ill is something I wouldn't want to decide on.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 18 Jan 2009 19:34

Ther two in charge got 30 years the others got between 12 and 18 ....so I guess they are now out .........

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:34

I don't know but it involved an iron bar, so whoever did it meant business. Plus I think that if you go out on a crime and a murder is comitted by someone you're with you are classed as being as guilty as they are.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 18 Jan 2009 19:31

I dont know much about the case apart from it happened on 08/08/1963 but did anyone of them ever admit to hitting the guy.

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:31

Not in most cases I agree Kemp. I suspect though that as the authorities had been robbed it could well have ment life. Just to teach them to steal from the poor rather than the rich.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 18 Jan 2009 19:28

But even if he had been charged with the murder of this man ....he would have been let out before now .......................

As we all know life is never life

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:20

Quote:
The train’s driver, Jack Mills, was hit over the head during the robbery and left badly injured. Sadly, he never returned to work, and died in 1970 without having made a full recovery.

from:
http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/news_info/info/museum/great-train-rob2.htm

So whether he died as a direct result of his injuries or not is immaterial to me. They ruined his life. So it wasn't a victimless crime.
Whether Biggs should be released I really don't know. Yes others who have done worse crimes have been freed. But should that mean that it doesn't annoy people when it happens? And many people of ill health have stayed and died in prison. He may actually be looked after better inside than when he comes out.

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:18

The man never worked again and died in pain several years later. The reason they weren't charged at the time of his death was because the statute of limitations had passed so they couldn't be. Whether there is proof or not the authorities are certain the injuries sustained in the attack were the cause.
I haven't said one way or the other whether he should be kept inside. I was pointing out to Kemp that it wasn't just a train robbery, someone got seriuosly hurt.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 18 Jan 2009 19:14

Sally ~~~~ there is no way they could ever charge them with his murder as there is no proof that it was the robbery that killed him
They should put the manpower and resources in to drink drivers, who cause deaths with careless actions,

How many drink drivers do you know or read about who have served more that 3 years for their crimes? The footballer is a classic example 3 years and killed 2 boys..I ask you.

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 19:10

George is right the man died as a result of his injuries. It's only because the time limit for murder had passed that they weren't charged with his murder.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 18 Jan 2009 19:06

George I dont really know the case but it does annoy me that if and when he comes out he can get to that money ...........

And I dont agree with what he did in any way but the murders of Jammie Bulger are out .............and they are young healthy adults able to do it again .....

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 18 Jan 2009 19:05

There is no proof of that. Do you honestly think that would stand up in a court of law today and be a fair trial. I doubt it very much.

How much extra care and security does he need because he is a dying man in prision.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 18 Jan 2009 18:53

Ok I just read all about it ........

Let him out like Hayley says if he had done that today he would already be out ...........................

prehaps he can remember where he put that money !! ....LOL

The train driver died in 1970 the robbery was 1963,....so they didnt murder him

SallyF

SallyF Report 18 Jan 2009 18:52

kemp because of the actions of him and his gang a train worker died after suffering awful injuries. He didn't just rob a train.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 18 Jan 2009 18:50

Look I,m stupid ...................

What did he do ???

Yes he robbed a train but what else did he do !!??

I really dont understand it ...if he only robbed a train and left England why hes still being kept by tax payers money !!

me

me Report 18 Jan 2009 18:31

good point Hayley

jgee

jgee Report 18 Jan 2009 18:31

yes

me

me Report 18 Jan 2009 18:30

he cant walk without sticks and hes going blind


let him free

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 18 Jan 2009 18:26

I think he should be. His crime is over 45 years old. I don’t think he would be a danger to society now. So why keep him in an institution that is already over crowded and undermanned. There are enough crimes today that need the authorities attention.

valinkent

valinkent Report 18 Jan 2009 18:26

If he hadn't run away to Brazil ...he would have been free years ago.
But that was his choice.