General Chat

I can't wait to see:

I remember a previous black senator of california, who everyone thought they would vote for, but what they said and what they did was something different, he was also a dead cert to get in, and he never did.. hence the empahsis is on not voting on what you may think.. but to go out and actually vote...

An interesting piece in our local newspaper today by an astrologer.

Heavens aligned for new American Revolution

Pluto returns to Capricorn for first time in 250 years
Georgia Nicols, The Province
Published: Tuesday, November 04, 2008
Most people assume an astrological picture for election day in the U.S. is based on the charts of the presidential candidates. This is only partly true.

Astrology is based on the relationships between mathematical cycles. Nothing stands alone.

Therefore, the two biggest determining factors are: (1) What's happening right now in the heavens on Nov. 4, 2008; and (2) How the charts of John McCain and Barack Obama relate to the chart of the United States.

Pluto rules nations, and Capricorn rules governments.

The last time Pluto was in Capricorn was from 1763 to 1778. This was the time of the American Revolution, which culminated in the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776.

The next time that Pluto returns to Capricorn is in November 2008.

Shocked? I was.

On election day, the planet Saturn is in direct opposition to the planet Uranus.

Saturn represents the status quo; Uranus represents revolutionary change at a grassroots level. These two opposing forces meet each other head-on! When we look at the charts of McCain and Obama, we see McCain is a Virgo, with Moon in Aquarius and Pisces Rising. He has Mars in Leo, which many presidents have had before him.

With four planets in Earth, McCain is a practical man who is actually hard to "read" because his Pisces mask can project whatever it is you want to see.

Obama is a Leo, with Moon in Gemini and Aquarius Rising. With his Leo Sun in the Sixth House, he works intensely to excel at whatever he does and gets recognition for it.

Both these guys are successful go-getters.

What will make the difference is which one of their charts has the strongest connection to the chart of the U.S., based on July 4, 1776, 2:24 p.m.

I'll cut to the chase and tell you right off -- it's the chart of Barack Obama, hands down.

In fact, Obama's chart is more closely aligned to the chart of the U.S. than any president for at least 50 years. The connection shows two things: One is a Neptune factor; the other relates to the Moon.

The Neptune factor shows that Obama represents a vision to the American public.

It's as if he is an ideal whose time has come. And the Moon factor shows that he resonates with the mood of the American public, in particular with their popular opinion and their security needs.

If the U.S. can have an honest election, there's no question that Obama will win because his chart shows he most closely personifies what the American public is looking for in a leader.

Furthermore, Pluto returning to Capricorn (after 250 years) heralds the time of a second American Revolution.

Hopefully there won't be a problem with 'Chads' this time.

What is/are "Chads"?

Deb

bloomin heck... that's heavy

that sarah palin though don't sound convincing (in ,my opinion of course)

All eyes on Indiana I reckon!!!!

The chads are the little bits of card made by the non-electronic voting system they had in some states last time. If it didn't come away cleanly the vote wasn't counted and that is why a lot of people felt GW didn't win fairly last time.

a "chad" is the little round piece of paper that is produced by using a punch while voting using a paper voting card.

eh googled lol
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deb cheers for that hun...
hope ya get the result ya want
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Thanks for the "chads" info. You learn something new everyday.
I remember now the problem they had last time, and how some voters thought that it may have affected the outcome.

deb

Not long to wait now for the first announcements.

I've decided to try and stay up and watch the results come in. Which means that I'm already yawning ages before tiredness usually does its stuff......

Anyway, having consulted Wikipedia on the subject of "staying up all night - aids to" I find that opening a bottle of wine is apparently the Thing To Do.

Always one to learn from the experience of those wiser than myself, I've taken Wiki's advice. It goes against the grain (or indeed, the vine) but then, who am I .........

Lol Sue

what time will we find out? Roughly?

I'm guessing about 9 or 10pm here.
5 or 6am in the UK.

The results are coming in now from the eastern states that are 3 hours ahead.

Deb

whos winning lol

Anything to share with us over here, Debbie?

Thanks

Sue

Too early to tell yet.

You can keep up to date from www.cnn.com

Deb

The BBC has good coverage:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7697829.stm

Going to be an exciting night.

Rose

I agree Rose!

I have to break off watching the election at 7pm for Coronation Street though.
I have my priorities ;)

I am watching votes come in on cnn.com, and don't understand this..........
South Carolina is red (McCain) on the map, but when you hover over the state these are the results.
Obama 14,830 55%
McCaine 11,912 44% (with a little tick)

So how come McCain was awarded a win when the results are as above?

Joanne,

Only 5% of the votes have been counted so far but McCain is projected to win.

Rose

Thank you for explaining Rose. I thought these were the final results and not predictions. Would explain what's being said on BBC news channel.