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The police have a duty to follow up if a complaint is made. Let's face it there are kids of this age doing more than just pushing. Should they be allowed to sort it out themselves?

pat!
there is nothing bad about my grandsons friends
they are all very nice lads none of them hang around the streets causing trouble it was just a tiff thats gone wrong, have you never fell out with your friends
because you don't agree with something they have said that you didn't like i know i have.

all the lads still meet up in a morning to go to school
and still come again together it the parent who wants
to make something of this not the lads.

nannie

hi Sally, i suppose im behind with the times. what a shame the times have turned out to be. nite. x

Look Im sorry, I haven't meant to upset anyone, I am just giving my opinion.
I work in a school and see the 'fallouts' every day so i know all about that.
You may feel that there is nothing bad about them, But I don't think it's ok for one of them to push another child and make them cry. That is inexcusable. Children should be taught that they should not use their hands as a weapon in an argument/fallout or whatever.
I won't reply again to the thread as I feel that I have given my opinion enough on the matter. We will have to agree to disagree which is a nicer change to the usual arguing on here. :-)

Pat

Pat

Well YP we've all hear the horrific stories in the press and on the telly. Sometimes 12 year old boys just can't be left to sort it out themselves, unfortunately.
And I have to say that even if nothing comes of all this if his DNA is taken they won't wipe it off the system. It's there for good.

you are right yorkshire pud
i never fell out over my kids fighting they are friend
when you still not talking to the parents

nannie

i am sure in time sally
way things are going in our country everyones DNA
will be on the system even if you haven't done anything wrong. i am 57years old and never never broke the law and neither have my children.

nite all

nannie x

Nannie so true, in our day our parents would argue the point while we the culprits were playing and having fun.nite.x

Sorry YP but the world is a different place to when we were children..... they think its ok to carry knives these days in the name of DEFENCE!!

Bullying is bullying and if the police have raised this as an assault case it means that there are bruises somewhere!!

Trust me as a person who suffered domestic violence and was only able to have the police charge the final act as "assault" even tho I had a black eye, a fat lip, a foot print bruise on my thigh and a bruised ear from the battering I took its never cut and dried!!

A recent case as example.

A young girl at primary school, who is basically a bully attacked another girl in the playground. She was later charged by police at her home when the victims mother reported her.

My question is:: Where were the playground assistants when this was happening and why didn't the school act upon it.

This will not doubt cause animosity between the girls in years to come. Surely the parents could've sorted it out, with the help of the school

Nannie, has your daughter sought the advice of a lawyer?

Bob, some of the parents nowadays mamby pamby their kids

Hello chelsea pink, im sorry you had to suffer so. ive realised no one can take away what we feel, ive been there myself. As an oldie you never forget but other things become more important so you store them away. im lavishing my love on my grt grandaughter who was born a month ago with Downs. But awww, shes so beautiful and innocent. nite nite xxxx

I tend to agree that children do mess about and rough house, I know the occasional teasing push did my brothers no harm in the scheme of things. Though bullying and physical assault are a different kettle of fish. This seems to have been a push that went wrong, it doesn't seem there was malicious intent (but then I wasn't there). Although that said it seems that Nannie's grandson was already walking away when the incident occurred and last I heard you were not guilty just because you were in the same street as the perpetrator.

The reason why this all seems so wrong is that the burden is on the police to prove guilt and not on the suspect to prove innocence...that is the nature of our society. They have no evidence, this arrest is insane and could ruin a boy's life.

What next, do we stop kids from playing rugby, football, basketball etc?

It's a pity the police have nothing better to do. Don't they have children of their own? I would get some advice on this one. It seems well over the top to me.

Nannie, why not try and get a free half hour session with a solicitor who can advise your daughter about the whole thing? It stinks, to my way of thinking! What kind of message does it give when the parents are making such a fuss over this? The lad will never learn to stand on his own two feet and sort things out. I would have thought once the school had sorted things out it would and should have been the end of the matter. It isn't right that your son's details be kept like this for not doing anything wrong. If you can't get a free session with a solicitor talk to your local MP.
Good luck,

Lizx

I think the whole point is that he witness the incident and therefore he will need to give a statement..Because the parents have made a complaint

Giving a statement as a witness is different to being told he will be arrested and all that goes with it. I don't see that anyone else could have stopped a push, it's a sudden action by one person, how are his pals to know he was going to do it. Seems to me the lad who got pushed, who after all is a friend with these other boys, is a bit of a wimp to go home crying, maybe his pride was hurt! His parents should have sent him to self defence classes instead of reporting this or wanting to take it to the Police, they are not doing him any favours. Maybe they are hoping to claim compensation!
Lizx

I tried to add to this thread last time it was up ...it was wooooossshhhededd

The child has to be arrested to obtain his rights .....even when giving a statement ...

His rights include water food and rest periods .......

If he choses not to be arrested he gets nothing!!!!

I,m sure this will be sorted out ..if not it would be down to the courts to sort it ...........

My advice is that if this ends up in court go to the LEA and get your child moved school ...away from kids whom seem set on making trouble

Good Luck