General Chat

I can't believe this..............how dare they discriminate!!!!

What really made me spit pips was when I read they were insisting that all the sn children took part in a fundraiser so others could go off on trips. It's bad enough them being discriminated against but then to be expected to raise money as well........grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Sorry can't say any more.....if I did it may get this thread removed and that isn't fair.

Jax/Stacey

that is so not far discrimination is what it is.
Children learn more when they are doing fun things like trips and dont even realise they are learning so why do they exclude the ones that would benefit most.

Go right to the top take no prisoners Boo and her friends are worth it.

d xx

Thanks Everyone

The learning difficulties in this class range from children who have problems from birth due to being very premature, to behavioural problems (ADHD) and in minor cases like Boo's concentration problems.

They are all lovely kids who just need a bit more patience and encouragement and I feel leaving them out of activities such as the school trips is not the way to go abuot encouraging them and helping them gain their confidence in learning.

Thanks all again so much, I will keep you all updated.

Love Jax xx

Jax, having two SEN kids with dyslexia I'd be fuming!!!!

Caz xx

Lol Jax... you're excused class to make flapjacks, Boo will love it.

Now I am a bit of a cynic in some areas... I would want to be asking the head...
Are any of the teaching staff/support workers etc removed from Boo's class on school trip days to provide support for those going on the trip?

This was a regular cop out for Heads so that they could maintain adult:child ratios on outside field trips for the mainstream youngsters. This would of course mean that Boo's class was staffed at minimum levels on those trip days.
I have seen that happen so many times... and have even been personally withdrawn from my named child to provide general support on an outing, before it clicked what was happening.

That's for starters.. I am off for some brain food!!

Oh... and just a note about funding..... the school will have massive cash bonuses and extra funding for each special needs child, and some of that funding is allowed to be diverted to the rest of the school.... cynic that I am, I wonder whether some of the children who were once doing well, but fell behind due to the changes.... well, maybe the massive cash injection was more of a carrot for the powers-that-be than the welfare and education of the children who were most affected by the disruption.

I have to say, that I smell a rat in this......

Love

Daff.... and Boo... bring me a flap jack when you come to the Fair, please, would you???? xxxxxxx

Sorry read some more of this ,......

This is DISCRIMINATION ......

NO WAY you are right .........stand your ground

Look I need to say this which you then need to check ......

I was told these children NEED these trips to boost confidence .....and I was then lead to believe that its a POLICY to get these children on school trips and I,ve even had TWO trips paid for as part of my sons special needs IEP .......

How Dare the school exclude some children at my g/daughters school Everyone goes and that includes the special kiddies/ Oh! Like Daff I'm fuming! get on to the papers and the education authority
Just a thought could your mothers take them away on a picnic one Saturday......or dare I say it even a school day say the day the others are going on a trip

Norah x

Sorry everyone I am reading your replies but cant keep up with you all lol

Yes the sponsored walk is to be held during school time and will be taking them away from lessons.

We are very angry about all this and the effect its having on the children and yes we are also contacting the local town councellor and mp about this.

There are also many other concerns as to why there are 14 children in one year with special needs in such a small area, in which the first 2 proper years of those childrens learning there were many changes in the school (new head, amalgamation) and it seems that children who were doing well in year 1 now have learning problems. But that is a long story.

Boo is nagging me to make flap jacks so will have to shoot for a while.

Thankyou all so much your opinions have given me some very valid point to make to the school and at the meeting.


Jax xx

jax, have to agree with everything said here, especially with what daff says. I am sure this is discriminatory and if the school governors are agreeing with the ehad I would go to the education authority, the Welsh Assembly and the newspapers and even the local TV. but I would also let them do the sponsored walk because to not allow them to do so will make them feel even more excluded. Children enjoy things like that. and Daffs banner is a good idea, but held by a parent not a child. assuming parents will be there. Something like "Our children, raising money to send oter children on day trips"
How dare they exclude them, how disgusting.

ann
glos

Daff and Jax,

Just read the thread to OH, he is still ranting! Isn't the aim to integrate these children into society not segregate them...aaaargh!!!!!!

x

Sue... you have it in a nutshell..... I have steam coming out of my ears!! I worked in an SN school for 6 years... I know how vital school trips are to social and academic development!

Welsh Assembly... Go to the head honcho, Rhodri Morgan... and who is the Welsh Assembly Schools rep? Grrrrrr!!!

Love

Daff xxx

How dare they !

I would take this further.

This is discrimination and to ask them to raise funds for every other child other than them to go on these school trips is disgusting !

If you get no luck try your local citizens advice, who will let you know if they are in breach of discrimination

Good Luck !

I'd get Daff heading your campaign Jax....she's well scarey! lol

To answer your question, I think it's appalling what they are saying. You stand up to them girl!

Daff I like your idea of the banner and allowing the children to take part, will bring that up in tomorrows meeting. Thanks hun xx

Sally a few of the children are statemented so have their own one to one teachers who would go on the trip plus there are numerous L.S.A. and parents who normally help out on trips myself included. So there is no problem with that.

Thanks everyone for your opinions I will make a copy of this make some notes for the meeting as you have raised some good points xxxxx

Very good point Squirrel!!
Can't go on educational trips - can't go on sponsored walk.
Jax, if this is in school time, bearing in mind the schools views - you and the other parents of children in Boo's class could INSIST they have a lesson instead - and hope they don't comply - or could arrange your own outing for the children during the sponsored walk, (something that won't cost, like a nature walk) and insist they would at least be learning about the local area - much more educational than walking in circles to sponsor other children.

maggie

Good point there Secret.....

I have no experience of special needs classes, and what special needs they include.......if this class is part of the school, then it should be included in all school activities, including outings with the school........otherwise it is no more than segregation.....

I feel so sorry for Boo and her friends if she sees her friends doing things that she and her class are not allowed to participate in.......and I agree with Daff.......it makes you so mad.....

Jax,

You can't be expected for Boo to raise funds that exclude her group (or any group) from the benefits of those funds.

FGS how insensitive are the school?

Leaving the SN class in school whilst others are off on a jolly will do nothing for their confidence and in some will surely cause resentment and disruptive behaviour.

Have you spoken with members of the PTA?

I am furious that any education department consider this acceptable. A call to the Welsh Assembly wouldn't go amiss.

BTW if your MP is the same as mine, which I expect he is, don't bother with approaching him! PM me for details.

Let us know what happens, good luck

Sue xx

So time out of lessons for a sponsored walk is compulsory but Boo's class are excluded from trips.??
I think it unfair to discriminate in this way.
What must it feel like to see others go off and then yourself be expected to work in the classroom.?

Gwyn

Jax I may be wrong here... but I do not believe that children can be FORCED to go on a fund raiser, anyway how DARE they???....... you say that you have been told that all the children HAVE to go!!

My blood is beginning to boil...... and my finger is ready to press the button for the Western Mail and Echo, Dragon and REAL Radios and everyone else!!