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Which one and what date joan..pm if you wish..

GA

I do know its one of those 2 years also the date of one

Joan,

I cannot unfortunately give you an exact date for what the Chap told me because he never said. but i do know it was mid to late 80's the same time as the Chemical Ali stuff.. Why are you asking?

GA

was it 85 or 88

Hi Joan.

Year?
If you are asking what year that this happened to the Kurdish people, it was during the late 80's.

GA

Hi GA, what year where you refering to

I have promised my son should he ever be called up for a war which is nothing to do with us-I will personally break both of his legs.I'm sick of this country getting involved in conflicts 'cause another country deems it right.I cannot imagine what people go through when their loved ones are dragged into these dangerous situations,it's inexcusable.

Good point the Oil!

OPEC keep oil prices high by not supplying to much of it.

I believe, and correct me if i am wrong that Iraq was one of the biggest oil producers on the planet.

If only the people of Iraq could move on and use the wealth to rebuild their country. Or should that read, if others would let the Iraqi people use the oil.....

and hopefully our petrol/diesel will be cheaper! but that's another story..

GA

GA i agree theres no actual legal/illegal side that i can see either

I was in Suez, in Cyprus, in Borneo, in Ireland. All maybe not as bad as iraq and Afghanistan -my son in the Falklands. As Hayley mentioned - paid by the government and that was my work and I did it. Legal or Illegal ??? As Eldrick - Legality is a Perception.

Hi Hayley,

The Chemical Ali murders!, no not the same but just as bad..

All very grim! Ali was sentenced to death last year, however legal wrangling keeps him and other alive..

GA

My son was the same SM....served in Iraq...but he was paid to do a job... he work for the government and thats where they required him to be....

both my son's have been to Iraq and Afhanistan twice.
Ask them .
Both will say futile , Getting rid of a despot fine,but i personaly believe it was abuot oil.
what was the first thing the americans did in Iraq .yes protect the oil fields.
Econimists say the us will shortley run out of oil .
Nuff said.
Blair as we know was a puppet so the puppet meister in chief has murdered( in my opinion hunderds of young lives) hope he gets his just rewards in hell. us

GA wasnt that Kurdish by chemical Ali or am I getting mixed up ,,,

Legality is a perception. No one can answer you.

I know if Iraq had invaded the UK I would be fighting tooth and nail to get them out. To many of them, and Afghans, and Irishmen, Argentinians (Falklands) and Spaniards (Gibraltar), the UK is in the wrong and so we may be. The victor writes the history and gets to call it legal, moral or whatever he chooses. The Nazi's honestly believed their cause was noble.

You question is really one of semantics that cannot be answered.

I wonder as well....that Afganistan is the war on terrisom (sp) but if a group of say French students bombed the usa or the UK would they flood their country with troops.....by the way no way am I slagging of our troops

Well,Its governments that decide,but that doesn't make them morally right,does it??
but if your a soldier you go where your country sends you.

Hi all,

The UN are week and follow the big man (USA) whether right or wrong! If you read the documentation regarding how they get to a legal or illegal conclusion it will make your head truly hurt! its all about definition and how it is interpreted.

WMD.. may or may not have been in Iraq. So, as has been said, next step blame Saddam Hussein. Well, I have met a a Kurdish chap who's family live in northern Iraq. I met him at a centre in Dover. He told me a very sad story. A story that i know is true from other sources. A story that has not been publicised.

A Kurdish town in Northern Iraq was visited by Mr Hussein's people. way before the first Allied invasion.
80,000, yes that's 80,000, people were murdered by said people. I will not tell you good folks how these poor people passed.!

One of many true events that i know of around the world!

So, my point is, how do we, as human beings decide legal or illegal in the war sense? it is very difficult, i for one certainly do not know the answer..

I said earlier that the UN are week! I stand by this, however i do sympathise with the individuals that form this organisation.

GA

Hayley, I couldn;t tell you. But what i'm after, is what makes a legal war or an Illegal war. If a man gives his life in an illegal war and another gives his life in a legal war, who has the power to decide..

true,Hayley!
I often wonder about that.