General Chat

Thanks to everyone for adding.

My point is really that they have no right to ask. Once you're adopted you are no longer legally the name and identity you were born with. It's insulting and irrelevant to demand an original birth certificate and negates adoption.

Maybe security is just getting tighter......, my short version only says details taken from a extraction of an entry in the GRO's book ( with hindsight if I know what I know now the fact it was the book in London and not locally would have given the fact away I was adopted ).

But a full version states parents name etc.........

This may be a daft suggestion but hey!

Is it feasible that if an applicant applies for their first passport when they are under the age of 18 the adoption cert will suffice.

Once the applicant turns 18 the powers that be assume that the information re adoption could be released to the adoptee so they don't care and they have their extra security data.

Sue

ps......we also got visas for America and no problem there either.....

Two of mine are adopted and when we had them put on our passports there was nothing on the forms to ask if they were or were not adopted......so how can they tell.....

Also when they applied for their own passports they had to supply their birth certificates, which are in their adoptive names........no problems whatsoever.......so I am a bit confused here.....

Slight deviation from the passport thing, but when I joined the Civil Service in 1982 I had to buy a long birth certificate for them before they would give me the job. They had to investigate my parentage ????? was the reason given.

I might have been adopted and would have found out at that point. As it is I wasn't, but it is very unfair on the adoptees and their family for government departments to force the issue like this.

Dianne xx

my daughter was adopted my my husband
when she was 2
aplying for her passport she had to send her birth and adoption certs in.

my daughter in law has applied for her first passport
and has to go for an interview tomorrow
she is nervous . told her not to be she has lived in sunderland all her life her mom and dad and her grandparents , ....they must be getting tougher.
.................rose................x

I don't know the full ins and outs of this, and seems no one else does either.
One thing I will say is ALL certificates are copies, the originals are in the books held by the registrars.

Rosalind

I do hope someone does stand up. The other entire silly do’s and don’t civil servants have to abide with, as not to offend or cause distress this should be one of them. I can only imagine how sensitive this must be to those concerned.

They wouldn't do it to me.

I am surprise they can do this it is very PC is it ?

Kemp,

That is so out of order,,,,how dare they insist this , of your son is a person in his own right, ,,,,,,,,,,,,! is nothing sacred...........?

But we have only the fraudesters to blame for all this red tape......

Hayley,~~~~~~

The father on a marriage certificate of anyone adopted will be the adoptive parent in normal circumstances ,,,that is in the eyes of the law is who is the parent and as it should be,,,,

ok Thank you

Yes, this would force them to apply for their original birth cert.

When adoptees get married, they put their adoptive fathers names down because, apart from anything else, they are their legal fathers.

I know this is a silly question..but what if the person has no intention of ever applying for their orginal birth cert as they have no interest in tracing birth parents..does this then mean they have to ?

Also when you get married you are asked to put the name of your natural Father ...if you are adopted does this mean your birthfather or adopted father ? ( nothing to do with passports just asking )...

Thanks everyone for your replies. I am going to contact them when I get some time. They have absolutely no right to do this - and there are complications with my friend's son's circumstances that I can't go into but it's made a sensitive issue much more difficult.

Hi Uggers

Do not think it was done on purpose this person just presumed that she knew she was adopted, it could easily have been I did not know till I was 30 and had only a short cert......
Who was it on here that went for a job interview and was asked to produce a copy of their adoption cert to personell ?, thought that was disgusting.
Maybe it has a lot to do with fraud not though :O/

It looks to me like its a "spot" check thing but must be awful to have to sort all that out if there has been family secrets !

My heart goes out to you all

My grandson is adopted and he is 16.He has his own passport and only supplied his adopted birth cert.Annie