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SOLDIERS KILLED IN IRAQ (debate)

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Helen in Kent

Helen in Kent Report 13 Mar 2008 17:46

And you haven't answered my points yet either.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 13 Mar 2008 17:44

Deanna unless I am very much mistaken, I was not aware that National Service had returned to the UK.
There is a choice whether to sign up or not.
My point is that should we be "celebrating", through the use of stamps, something that is widely regarded as a mistake and is not our war?
Nobody has yet been able to answer my questions. What exactly are we celebrating and what is being defended?

Helen in Kent

Helen in Kent Report 13 Mar 2008 17:37

Errol!!!

Did you have to do National Service?

Aggression is not to be celebrated but serving your country is. You do as you are ordered. I glad these young people chose a job rather than being on the dole.

Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Mar 2008 17:35

Errol, My husband and I were completely opposed to both the 'theatres' my son was sent to.
BUT. As you have been told.... he was a soldier and had no choice at all.
For the first time in his life I had to accept that I was powerless to save him from this situation... not a nice feeling Errol, I can tell you!


Deanna X

PS.... a young man has a choice to sign or not.
A SQUADDIE has no choice.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 13 Mar 2008 17:35

I am not hijacking the thread at all. I am adding my opinion to the debate and wish to know what we are actually celebrating. It would be totally wrong to use national stamps in this instance. It would also give out the wrong messages.
And a squaddie does have a choice. Either sign up or do not sign up.

Scooby's

Scooby's Report 13 Mar 2008 17:32

Don't think I would like to see my brother's picture on a stamp, not that he is dead but has been in the army for twenty odd years, don't think mum would like it either.
I do think they shoul have some form of recognition though.
I also think the ones who come home injured should be well looked after too
Janet

Helen in Kent

Helen in Kent Report 13 Mar 2008 17:29

Errol. as I said, if you don't agree with this government's ideas about this then don't vote for them. I don't and I didn't and I won't.

As far as I understand it it's to do with oil and money and the government's view of the future. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a Tory either (or a LibDem). I just object to what I see as the pointless pratings of whichever government. The budget yesterday? We are in for a tough time? PLEEEASE. We had in my day 'coal not dole.; we had the 3 day working week. We had to do our homework by candle light because everyone was on strike. Have you seen 'Billy Elliot'? That was my era.

I may be cynical but we have seen it all before and they are all as bad as each other.

Honour our armed forces because they do what we daren't. Those who sadly die are very unfortunate and should be praised for doing an extreme job. Still not sure about the stamps though.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 13 Mar 2008 17:28

deanna

i am so happy your son

came home safe xxx

we should all show

our armed forces every respect

Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Mar 2008 17:25

Yes Joy a parade is nice for them.
Mine and all his mates from the town had a family party put on by the Council.
It was an afternoon affair and so the younger members of the family were able to come.
They then all had their photo taken on the steps of the civic building.

A nice day....
Deanna X

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 13 Mar 2008 17:18

mind i do agree

a parade through their home town

would be a good idea

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 13 Mar 2008 17:18

I respect our various forces tremendously - indeed my niece's partner has served several tours of duty as has my wife's colleague (a volunteer). But I do not agree that by travelling to Iraq they are protecting us and our government. From what, exactly? What is the current perceived threat against which they are defending?

Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Mar 2008 17:14

I am a very lucky woman.... my son is still alive, after being in Ireland and the Falklands war.

Had I not been so lucky, and had he not come home, I would not be consoled by having his face on a stamp.

I do not agree with it, but then, many parents may and I cannot make the choice for them.

Bless them all anyway.
Deanna X

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 13 Mar 2008 17:14

sorry i posted then got waylaid

sick parrot

yes it may be connected to the same
project

Lynne
every respect to your son doing a difficult job in difficult circumstances


my thought are

only if this is done with the agreement of the family's

Lynne

Lynne Report 13 Mar 2008 17:10

i am very proud of him i just hope he knows what he is letting himself in for but the 13 weeks training will give him an idea

Helen in Kent

Helen in Kent Report 13 Mar 2008 17:10

Errol. they serve at our government's request to protect our elected government and our nation against what it perceives to be threats against us all. If you don't agree with this then don't vote for them.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2008 17:10

I understand what you are saying in one sense Errol, but they are OUR armed forces and as such deserve our respect

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 13 Mar 2008 17:08

I don't quite understand the bit about reminding us what they have done for us. What have they actually done for us?

Helen in Kent

Helen in Kent Report 13 Mar 2008 17:07

Lynne you must be very proud of him but I understand your concerns. How fantastic that one of today's young men can think of something other than themselves and go for a job that he knows may put him in difficult situations.

AS I said earlier none of my children are in the forces but my dad was in the M.O.D. in the 60s and we celebrated our armed forces because they kept us safe.

Along with the loss of respect of many in this country for all people in positions of authority, it's as if our soldiers, sailors and airmen are simply playing computer games. When will they learn it's for real and our boys and girls are getting shot or killed on our behalf?

Grabagran

Grabagran Report 13 Mar 2008 17:00

I wish your son all the best and God keep him safe Lynne.

I don't like the idea of the stamps, but I think the MP's in Westminster and Holyrood should have to look at their faces every day, and realise the big mistake they have made by putting out troops in.

Sorry to offend anyone, but that is just my opinion.

Lynne

Lynne Report 13 Mar 2008 16:55

my son was accepted into the army today i dont think i like the idea of the stamps i hope i never have to think about things like that